BTW, it has been pointed out that I mis-attributed the IOCTL idea to Chris. That was my mistake. That said, the point I was making still holds, namely, that there exist some ideas (and there will be more) to deal with the near term deficiencies, perceived or otherwise, with the SAL.
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On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 9:09 AM, David Meyer <dmm@...> wrote: All,
As you know today (05.14.2013) was the day on which I wanted to have the single controller code base issue resolved. What I had said is that if we couldn't get the projects to agree on a way forward that we as a TSC would vote on the issue. In the mean time we have reached general consensus that the Dixon-Erickson OpenDaylight Merged Controller Proposal (DE) (see https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Dixon-Erickson_OpenDaylight_Merged_Controller_Proposal). I want to be very clear here that that plan is distinct from what is being called Proposed Dixon-Erickson Execution Plan (see https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Proposed_Dixon-Erickson_Execution_Plan). So from this perspective the community has come together over this general direction. This functionally obviates the need for a direct vote.
There have been quite a few concerns raised both publicly and to me directly in private email. I'd like to review those here and provide my perspective.
(i). The SAL
It is generally agreed that there is work left to be done on the SAL, and that there may be instances in which, (in the near term) we need a mechanism to provide a kind of "SAL bypass". Chris' IOCTL proposal is one such idea. What I want to point out here is the the ODP is evolving and as such we expect the architecture to not not improve technically but converge on the needed functionality/generality over time. This is a completely natural state of affairs for any software project. The summary is that we can provide short term mechanisms that bridge any perceived or real functionality gaps in the SAL (again, Chris' IOCTL idea might be one such mechanism). So while the OSCP folks have argued pretty strongly against the SAL (both publicly and privately), the DE proposal endorses the SAL concept and the OpenDaylight Controller folks consider the SAL to be a fundamental architectural construct. That said, evolution of the SAL (be it the model driven approach, bypass, etc) is an issue for folks who are writing SAL applications (committing code) to resolve.
(ii). New Project/Repository
This issue is really about the fairness of commits to the controller code base. This was stated explicitly to me privately and publicly by Glenn Ricart and Guru Parulkar on the discuss list. On the other hand, a simple majority of TSC members (and many in the community) have expressed the opinion that they would prefer moving forward with the plan outlined in the DE-proposal, namely start with the OpenDaylight controller and evolve that as needed. I will note here that there is no objective evidence that there is a fairness issue with commits to any candiate code base (it would hard for that to be the case in any event as we haven't had the chance to really get going). Finally, since this is largely a political issue it is outside of the scope of the TSC and should be "policed" by the community.
As an aside, I will also note here that several community members have expressed concern that the new project approach is quite expensive and has little benefit beyond the political/perception issue mentioned above.
(iii) Timing
The timing issue, namely that there is (is not) a rush to get the ODP project up and running is one that has also been raised both publicly and privately. I have been told (again, both publicly and privately) by the OSCP (BSN) folks that they have time pressure to port their applications to the ODP controller. That is a principle rationale behind the Layered API proposal (https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Layered_API_Merged_Controller_Proposal). In addition, the same team is also arguing that we are in no rush and in fact any date for resolving the controller issue is not only artificial but damaging to the community; this exact sentiment was contained in a private communication from Rob Sherwood to me dated Tue, May 14, 2013 at 1:38 AM. In the spirit of transparency I am copying the relevant text from that email here:
"I know that in your heart you believe what you're doing is the right thing for the community, and that's why I've held off making a stink, but as chair, I'm not sure what you're doing is in terms of pushing hard on this artificial deadline (that you said originally was not set in stone but now it is) or being opaque in terms of the actual process is really helping the community." -- Rob Sherwood to dmm on Tue, May 14, 2013 at 1:38 AM.
(this text of course also contains criticisms of me in my role as chair to which I will return but I want to focus here on the timing issue).
The summary here is that it has been argued by the OSCP team that we accept their proposal (https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/File:LayeredAPIProposal.pdf) because there is time pressure to port applications while at the same time it is being argued that any time frame is damaging, artificial, or worse. On the other hand, a simple majority of the TSC have stated publicly (on the discuss list) that resolving the controller code base issue of primary importance and they would like to move forward with an interpretation of DE that starts with the existing OpenDaylight controller code base.
It is clear from these inconsistencies that the timing issue is largely a non-issue for the ODP community at large; in addition there is clear benefit to moving forward with the DE approach now. One might also note here that we've made very little progress over the last many weeks and it is time to start, now.
(iv). Finally, if anyone has problems with me personally and/or the way TSC is being run please air those publicly on the discuss list. I will not be responding to emails such as the one quoted above, lobbying by private phone call, or the like. Again, if you have complaints about the way the TSC is being run please discuss those on the discuss or tsc lists.
Summary: It is clear that there is additional evolution that is needed for the SAL. No one is arguing otherwise. The new project/repository issue is really about concern that commits won't be fair (again, both Glenn and Guru raised this); however there is no evidence that this is or will be the case and in any event is not a technical issue and as such is out of scope for the TSC. Finally, the timing issue is largely a commercial issue (the need to port applications) and also has been argued on both sides by the same people and as such I consider those arguments largely moot; there is a real need to get the consortium going (hence the date) but that is a wholly different argument.
--dmm
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