Karaf stop command not working in Sodium.
Karthika Panneer
Both magnesium and sodium genius jobs are stable now.
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Thanks Robert and Faseela. Regards, R P Karthika -----Original Message-----
From: Faseela K <faseela.k@...> Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2019 3:05 PM To: Robert Varga <nite@...>; R P Karthika . <r.p.karthika@...>; Jamo Luhrsen <jluhrsen@...>; 'integration-dev_lists.opendaylight.org' (integration-dev_lists.opendaylight.org) (integration-dev_lists.opendaylight.org) <integration-dev@...> Cc: odlparent-dev_lists.opendaylight.org <odlparent-dev@...>; mdsal-dev_lists.opendaylight.org <mdsal-dev@...> Subject: RE: [integration-dev] Karaf stop command not working in Sodium. Karthika, The required patches are merged in Magnesium. Thanks Robert! Let us watch if our jobs are stable now. Thanks, Faseela -----Original Message----- From: Robert Varga <nite@...> Sent: Monday, August 19, 2019 2:38 PM To: Faseela K <faseela.k@...>; R P Karthika . <r.p.karthika@...>; Jamo Luhrsen <jluhrsen@...>; 'integration-dev_lists.opendaylight.org' (integration-dev_lists.opendaylight.org) (integration-dev_lists.opendaylight.org) <integration-dev@...> Cc: odlparent-dev_lists.opendaylight.org <odlparent-dev@...>; mdsal-dev_lists.opendaylight.org <mdsal-dev@...> Subject: Re: [integration-dev] Karaf stop command not working in Sodium. On 19/08/2019 11:06, Faseela K wrote: Robert,Faseela, this has been covered at the TSC meeting, the tracker issue is here: https://protect2.fireeye.com/url?k=92f0eb3b-ce24e7ca-92f0aba0-864685b2085c-632293e95d2e15c3&q=1&u=https%3A%2F%2Fjira.opendaylight.org%2Fbrowse%2FINTDIST-105 Regards, Robert |
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Faseela K
Karthika,
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The required patches are merged in Magnesium. Thanks Robert! Let us watch if our jobs are stable now. Thanks, Faseela -----Original Message-----
From: Robert Varga <nite@...> Sent: Monday, August 19, 2019 2:38 PM To: Faseela K <faseela.k@...>; R P Karthika . <r.p.karthika@...>; Jamo Luhrsen <jluhrsen@...>; 'integration-dev_lists.opendaylight.org' (integration-dev_lists.opendaylight.org) (integration-dev_lists.opendaylight.org) <integration-dev@...> Cc: odlparent-dev_lists.opendaylight.org <odlparent-dev@...>; mdsal-dev_lists.opendaylight.org <mdsal-dev@...> Subject: Re: [integration-dev] Karaf stop command not working in Sodium. On 19/08/2019 11:06, Faseela K wrote: Robert,Faseela, this has been covered at the TSC meeting, the tracker issue is here: https://protect2.fireeye.com/url?k=92f0eb3b-ce24e7ca-92f0aba0-864685b2085c-632293e95d2e15c3&q=1&u=https%3A%2F%2Fjira.opendaylight.org%2Fbrowse%2FINTDIST-105 Regards, Robert |
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Faseela K
Thanks Robert!
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From: Robert Varga <nite@...> Sent: Monday, August 19, 2019 2:38 PM To: Faseela K <faseela.k@...>; R P Karthika . <r.p.karthika@...>; Jamo Luhrsen <jluhrsen@...>; 'integration-dev_lists.opendaylight.org' (integration-dev_lists.opendaylight.org) (integration-dev_lists.opendaylight.org) <integration-dev@...> Cc: odlparent-dev_lists.opendaylight.org <odlparent-dev@...>; mdsal-dev_lists.opendaylight.org <mdsal-dev@...> Subject: Re: [integration-dev] Karaf stop command not working in Sodium. On 19/08/2019 11:06, Faseela K wrote: Robert,Faseela, this has been covered at the TSC meeting, the tracker issue is here: https://protect2.fireeye.com/url?k=92f0eb3b-ce24e7ca-92f0aba0-864685b2085c-632293e95d2e15c3&q=1&u=https%3A%2F%2Fjira.opendaylight.org%2Fbrowse%2FINTDIST-105 Regards, Robert |
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Robert Varga
On 19/08/2019 11:06, Faseela K wrote:
Robert,Faseela, this has been covered at the TSC meeting, the tracker issue is here: https://jira.opendaylight.org/browse/INTDIST-105 Regards, Robert |
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Faseela K
Robert,
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When can we get this for downstream consumers? Actually Sodium is also broken, not just master. Thanks, Faseela -----Original Message-----
From: R P Karthika . <r.p.karthika@...> Sent: Monday, August 19, 2019 2:31 PM To: Robert Varga <nite@...>; Jamo Luhrsen <jluhrsen@...>; Faseela K <faseela.k@...>; 'integration-dev_lists.opendaylight.org' (integration-dev_lists.opendaylight.org) (integration-dev_lists.opendaylight.org) <integration-dev@...> Cc: odlparent-dev_lists.opendaylight.org <odlparent-dev@...>; mdsal-dev_lists.opendaylight.org <mdsal-dev@...> Subject: RE: [integration-dev] Karaf stop command not working in Sodium. Hi Robert, This fix seems to be working fine. Karaf is getting killed without taking much time. Thanks!! Regards, R P Karthika -----Original Message----- From: Robert Varga <nite@...> Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2019 9:04 PM To: R P Karthika . <r.p.karthika@...>; Jamo Luhrsen <jluhrsen@...>; Faseela K <faseela.k@...>; 'integration-dev_lists.opendaylight.org' (integration-dev_lists.opendaylight.org) (integration-dev_lists.opendaylight.org) <integration-dev@...> Cc: odlparent-dev_lists.opendaylight.org <odlparent-dev@...>; mdsal-dev_lists.opendaylight.org <mdsal-dev@...> Subject: Re: [integration-dev] Karaf stop command not working in Sodium. On 14/08/2019 11:01, R P Karthika . wrote: Hi Robert,Thanks for testing, https://protect2.fireeye.com/url?k=8d725d29-d1f87fe6-8d721db2-0cc47ad93ea4-e5a4975ad41ac4d7&q=1&u=https%3A%2F%2Fgit.opendaylight.org%2Fgerrit%2F%23%2Fc%2Fmdsal%2F%2B%2F83625 on top of the previous patch should do the trick. Bye, Robert |
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Karthika Panneer
Hi Robert,
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This fix seems to be working fine. Karaf is getting killed without taking much time. Thanks!! Regards, R P Karthika -----Original Message-----
From: Robert Varga <nite@...> Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2019 9:04 PM To: R P Karthika . <r.p.karthika@...>; Jamo Luhrsen <jluhrsen@...>; Faseela K <faseela.k@...>; 'integration-dev_lists.opendaylight.org' (integration-dev_lists.opendaylight.org) (integration-dev_lists.opendaylight.org) <integration-dev@...> Cc: odlparent-dev_lists.opendaylight.org <odlparent-dev@...>; mdsal-dev_lists.opendaylight.org <mdsal-dev@...> Subject: Re: [integration-dev] Karaf stop command not working in Sodium. On 14/08/2019 11:01, R P Karthika . wrote: Hi Robert,Thanks for testing, https://protect2.fireeye.com/url?k=8d725d29-d1f87fe6-8d721db2-0cc47ad93ea4-e5a4975ad41ac4d7&q=1&u=https%3A%2F%2Fgit.opendaylight.org%2Fgerrit%2F%23%2Fc%2Fmdsal%2F%2B%2F83625 on top of the previous patch should do the trick. Bye, Robert |
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Robert Varga
On 14/08/2019 11:01, R P Karthika . wrote:
Hi Robert,Thanks for testing, https://git.opendaylight.org/gerrit/#/c/mdsal/+/83625 on top of the previous patch should do the trick. Bye, Robert |
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Karthika Panneer
Hi Robert,
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I tried testing it locally with your patch. But still the karaf process takes time to get killed. Now it takes approximately 5-8 mins for karaf to stop. Attaching the karaf logs. Regards, R P Karthika -----Original Message-----
From: Robert Varga <nite@...> Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2019 11:01 PM To: R P Karthika . <r.p.karthika@...>; Jamo Luhrsen <jluhrsen@...>; Faseela K <faseela.k@...>; 'integration-dev_lists.opendaylight.org' (integration-dev_lists.opendaylight.org) (integration-dev_lists.opendaylight.org) <integration-dev@...> Cc: odlparent-dev_lists.opendaylight.org <odlparent-dev@...>; mdsal-dev_lists.opendaylight.org <mdsal-dev@...> Subject: Re: [integration-dev] Karaf stop command not working in Sodium. Baseline distro will not have the change until mdsal-4.0.4 is released and integrated (just as any MRI project), hence I would suggest manual testing, as noted in a separate email in this thread beforehand. Alternatively, we can try validating this in the integration phase, but I will not have time to spin those patches before next week. Sent from my BlackBerry - the most secure mobile device - via the Orange Network Original Message From: r.p.karthika@... Sent: August 13, 2019 12:33 To: nite@...; jluhrsen@...; faseela.k@...; integration-dev@... Cc: odlparent-dev@...; mdsal-dev@... Subject: RE: [integration-dev] Karaf stop command not working in Sodium. Hi Robert, The latest distro generated in nexus.opendaylight.org does not have your changes. Will update once I test with your changes. Regards, R P Karthika -----Original Message----- From: Robert Varga <nite@...> Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2019 2:13 AM To: Jamo Luhrsen <jluhrsen@...>; Faseela K <faseela.k@...>; R P Karthika . <r.p.karthika@...>; 'integration-dev@...' (integration-dev@...) (integration-dev@...) <integration-dev@...> Cc: odlparent-dev@...; mdsal-dev@... Subject: Re: [integration-dev] Karaf stop command not working in Sodium. On 06/08/2019 19:49, Robert Varga wrote: On 05/08/2019 21:42, Jamo Luhrsen wrote:MDSAL-466^^^ your email client has betrayed you :) Still waiting for feedback... Regards, Robert |
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Robert Varga
Baseline distro will not have the change until mdsal-4.0.4 is released and integrated (just as any MRI project), hence I would suggest manual testing, as noted in a separate email in this thread beforehand.
Alternatively, we can try validating this in the integration phase, but I will not have time to spin those patches before next week. Sent from my BlackBerry - the most secure mobile device - via the Orange Network Original Message From: r.p.karthika@... Sent: August 13, 2019 12:33 To: nite@...; jluhrsen@...; faseela.k@...; integration-dev@... Cc: odlparent-dev@...; mdsal-dev@... Subject: RE: [integration-dev] Karaf stop command not working in Sodium. Hi Robert, The latest distro generated in nexus.opendaylight.org does not have your changes. Will update once I test with your changes. Regards, R P Karthika -----Original Message----- From: Robert Varga <nite@...> Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2019 2:13 AM To: Jamo Luhrsen <jluhrsen@...>; Faseela K <faseela.k@...>; R P Karthika . <r.p.karthika@...>; 'integration-dev@...' (integration-dev@...) (integration-dev@...) <integration-dev@...> Cc: odlparent-dev@...; mdsal-dev@... Subject: Re: [integration-dev] Karaf stop command not working in Sodium. On 06/08/2019 19:49, Robert Varga wrote: On 05/08/2019 21:42, Jamo Luhrsen wrote:MDSAL-466^^^ your email client has betrayed you :) Still waiting for feedback... Regards, Robert |
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Karthika Panneer
Hi Robert,
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The latest distro generated in nexus.opendaylight.org does not have your changes. Will update once I test with your changes. Regards, R P Karthika -----Original Message-----
From: Robert Varga <nite@...> Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2019 2:13 AM To: Jamo Luhrsen <jluhrsen@...>; Faseela K <faseela.k@...>; R P Karthika . <r.p.karthika@...>; 'integration-dev@...' (integration-dev@...) (integration-dev@...) <integration-dev@...> Cc: odlparent-dev@...; mdsal-dev@... Subject: Re: [integration-dev] Karaf stop command not working in Sodium. On 06/08/2019 19:49, Robert Varga wrote: On 05/08/2019 21:42, Jamo Luhrsen wrote:MDSAL-466^^^ your email client has betrayed you :) Still waiting for feedback... Regards, Robert |
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Robert Varga
On 06/08/2019 19:49, Robert Varga wrote:
On 05/08/2019 21:42, Jamo Luhrsen wrote:MDSAL-466^^^ your email client has betrayed you :) Still waiting for feedback... Regards, Robert |
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JamO Luhrsen
Karthika,
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some of our jobs run with autorelease distros (your first link) and some with snapshot distros (your second link). You need to change the autorelease URL to some number smaller than 3154 (see the autorelease-3154 in the middle?) to get to older distros. I'm not sure I understand exactly what we are seeing now. Does the problem happen on both distros (autorelease and snapshot) if it's more recent than 8/3? If so, just use the snapshot distros and go find the two distros that are next to each other chronologically where the older one passes and the newer one fails. That will give us the breakage window of a few hours. Thanks, JamO On 8/8/19 1:31 AM, R P Karthika . wrote:
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Karthika Panneer
Hi Jamo,
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From console log of the job, I found the distro URL which pointed out to, https://nexus.opendaylight.org/content/repositories/autorelease-3154/org/opendaylight/integration/karaf/0.11.0/ When I tested with this distro I found that 10 min issue. This is last updated on Aug 3 and from that is when CSIT is broken. I am not able to find the distro before Aug3 in the above mentioned URL. But in the URL you had pointed out, https://nexus.opendaylight.org/content/repositories/opendaylight.snapshot/org/opendaylight/integration/karaf/0.11.0-SNAPSHOT/ on Monday(when CSIT started failing), the distro when tested locally seems to be fine. Regards, R P Karthika -----Original Message-----
From: Jamo Luhrsen <jluhrsen@...> Sent: Wednesday, August 7, 2019 9:23 PM To: Faseela K <faseela.k@...>; R P Karthika . <r.p.karthika@...>; Robert Varga <nite@...>; 'integration-dev@...' (integration-dev@...) (integration-dev@...) <integration-dev@...> Cc: odlparent-dev@...; mdsal-dev@... Subject: Re: [integration-dev] Karaf stop command not working in Sodium. If you have some time, you can go try to find which actual snapshot distro started having this 10m problem. That will help isolate a small window when this started happening. knowing that will help find the culprit. good debugging so far :) JamO On 8/7/19 4:26 AM, Faseela K wrote: Thanks for the confirmation Karthika, CSIT overall only takes 20 mins, we cannot put 10 mins for each controller restart though! |
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JamO Luhrsen
If you have some time, you can go try to find which actual snapshot distro
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started having this 10m problem. That will help isolate a small window when this started happening. knowing that will help find the culprit. good debugging so far :) JamO On 8/7/19 4:26 AM, Faseela K wrote:
Thanks for the confirmation Karthika, CSIT overall only takes 20 mins, we cannot put 10 mins for each controller restart though! |
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Faseela K
Thanks for the confirmation Karthika, CSIT overall only takes 20 mins, we cannot put 10 mins for each controller restart though!
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But good that you have clarified the same with the job. @Robert : The patch you have on mdsal is on verify -1. Can we get it verified, will see if we can spend some cycles to test the same. Thanks Faseela -----Original Message-----
From: R P Karthika . <r.p.karthika@...> Sent: Wednesday, August 7, 2019 4:50 PM To: Robert Varga <nite@...>; Jamo Luhrsen <jluhrsen@...>; Faseela K <faseela.k@...>; 'integration-dev@...' (integration-dev@...) (integration-dev@...) <integration-dev@...> Cc: odlparent-dev@...; mdsal-dev@... Subject: RE: [integration-dev] Karaf stop command not working in Sodium. Hi, When I tried with the same distro locally I could see that it takes 10 minutes for the process to get killed after stopping the controller. To confirm the same I triggered a job by increasing the timeout to 10 mins and was able to see that the job was successful. Success logs : https://jenkins.opendaylight.org/sandbox/job/Karthikagenius-csit-1node-gate-only-sodium/6/ Regards, R P Karthika -----Original Message----- From: Robert Varga <nite@...> Sent: Tuesday, August 6, 2019 11:20 PM To: Jamo Luhrsen <jluhrsen@...>; Faseela K <faseela.k@...>; R P Karthika . <r.p.karthika@...>; 'integration-dev@...' (integration-dev@...) (integration-dev@...) <integration-dev@...> Cc: odlparent-dev@...; mdsal-dev@... Subject: Re: [integration-dev] Karaf stop command not working in Sodium. On 05/08/2019 21:42, Jamo Luhrsen wrote: ^^^ your email client has betrayed you :) Yeah, kinda ... since build #273 it looks like "Framework stop" is creating SchemaContexts. It really should not, as we should be speedily stopping. This is probably a side-effect of https://protect2.fireeye.com/url?k=b64f59e5-eac58d24-b64f197e-863d9bcb726f-ae28518222c47c71&q=1&u=https%3A%2F%2Fjira.opendaylight.org%2Fbrowse%2FMDSAL-461 fix, we have a slight optimization already staged for mdsal-4.0.4, but this needs proper looking after. Can you file an issue with mdsal? Also, can you try with https://protect2.fireeye.com/url?k=c9282245-95a2f684-c92862de-863d9bcb726f-82981d78e3f8a352&q=1&u=https%3A%2F%2Fgit.opendaylight.org%2Fgerrit%2Fc%2Fmdsal%2F%2B%2F83493 ? I'll take a look next week, as I am going offline. Regards, Robert |
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Karthika Panneer
Hi,
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When I tried with the same distro locally I could see that it takes 10 minutes for the process to get killed after stopping the controller. To confirm the same I triggered a job by increasing the timeout to 10 mins and was able to see that the job was successful. Success logs : https://jenkins.opendaylight.org/sandbox/job/Karthikagenius-csit-1node-gate-only-sodium/6/ Regards, R P Karthika -----Original Message-----
From: Robert Varga <nite@...> Sent: Tuesday, August 6, 2019 11:20 PM To: Jamo Luhrsen <jluhrsen@...>; Faseela K <faseela.k@...>; R P Karthika . <r.p.karthika@...>; 'integration-dev@...' (integration-dev@...) (integration-dev@...) <integration-dev@...> Cc: odlparent-dev@...; mdsal-dev@... Subject: Re: [integration-dev] Karaf stop command not working in Sodium. On 05/08/2019 21:42, Jamo Luhrsen wrote: ^^^ your email client has betrayed you :) Yeah, kinda ... since build #273 it looks like "Framework stop" is creating SchemaContexts. It really should not, as we should be speedily stopping. This is probably a side-effect of https://protect2.fireeye.com/url?k=b64f59e5-eac58d24-b64f197e-863d9bcb726f-ae28518222c47c71&q=1&u=https%3A%2F%2Fjira.opendaylight.org%2Fbrowse%2FMDSAL-461 fix, we have a slight optimization already staged for mdsal-4.0.4, but this needs proper looking after. Can you file an issue with mdsal? Also, can you try with https://protect2.fireeye.com/url?k=c9282245-95a2f684-c92862de-863d9bcb726f-82981d78e3f8a352&q=1&u=https%3A%2F%2Fgit.opendaylight.org%2Fgerrit%2Fc%2Fmdsal%2F%2B%2F83493 ? I'll take a look next week, as I am going offline. Regards, Robert |
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Robert Varga
Checkout v4.0.3 mdsal tag, cherry-pick the patch, build affected component, replace the jar in the distro.
I am sure there is also an automated way, but Luis knows the details. And it's not that the instance won't come down, it just takes more time than the tests are waiting for and it obviously depends on the number of features installed. Bye, Robert (offline for real) Sent from my BlackBerry - the most secure mobile device - via the Orange Network Original Message From: faseela.k@... Sent: August 7, 2019 8:33 AM To: nite@...; jluhrsen@...; r.p.karthika@...; integration-dev@... Cc: odlparent-dev@...; mdsal-dev@... Subject: RE: [integration-dev] Karaf stop command not working in Sodium. Robert, We tried downloading the same distro and tested things manually, but we are not able to reproduce the issue. But this is failing most of the times in Jenkins. And can you tell us how to test this with a WIP patch in mdsal? [0] How do we test this without having version bump patches in all projects? Also, why did this break all of a sudden? Thanks, Faseela [0] https://protect2.fireeye.com/url?k=c9282245-95a2f684-c92862de-863d9bcb726f-82981d78e3f8a352&q=1&u=https%3A%2F%2Fgit.opendaylight.org%2Fgerrit%2Fc%2Fmdsal%2F%2B%2F83493 -----Original Message----- From: Robert Varga <nite@...> Sent: Tuesday, August 6, 2019 11:20 PM To: Jamo Luhrsen <jluhrsen@...>; Faseela K <faseela.k@...>; R P Karthika . <r.p.karthika@...>; 'integration-dev@...' (integration-dev@...) (integration-dev@...) <integration-dev@...> Cc: odlparent-dev@...; mdsal-dev@... Subject: Re: [integration-dev] Karaf stop command not working in Sodium. On 05/08/2019 21:42, Jamo Luhrsen wrote: ^^^ your email client has betrayed you :) Yeah, kinda ... since build #273 it looks like "Framework stop" is creating SchemaContexts. It really should not, as we should be speedily stopping. This is probably a side-effect of https://protect2.fireeye.com/url?k=b64f59e5-eac58d24-b64f197e-863d9bcb726f-ae28518222c47c71&q=1&u=https%3A%2F%2Fjira.opendaylight.org%2Fbrowse%2FMDSAL-461 fix, we have a slight optimization already staged for mdsal-4.0.4, but this needs proper looking after. Can you file an issue with mdsal? Also, can you try with https://protect2.fireeye.com/url?k=c9282245-95a2f684-c92862de-863d9bcb726f-82981d78e3f8a352&q=1&u=https%3A%2F%2Fgit.opendaylight.org%2Fgerrit%2Fc%2Fmdsal%2F%2B%2F83493 ? I'll take a look next week, as I am going offline. Regards, Robert |
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Faseela K
Robert,
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We tried downloading the same distro and tested things manually, but we are not able to reproduce the issue. But this is failing most of the times in Jenkins. And can you tell us how to test this with a WIP patch in mdsal? [0] How do we test this without having version bump patches in all projects? Also, why did this break all of a sudden? Thanks, Faseela [0] https://protect2.fireeye.com/url?k=c9282245-95a2f684-c92862de-863d9bcb726f-82981d78e3f8a352&q=1&u=https%3A%2F%2Fgit.opendaylight.org%2Fgerrit%2Fc%2Fmdsal%2F%2B%2F83493 -----Original Message-----
From: Robert Varga <nite@...> Sent: Tuesday, August 6, 2019 11:20 PM To: Jamo Luhrsen <jluhrsen@...>; Faseela K <faseela.k@...>; R P Karthika . <r.p.karthika@...>; 'integration-dev@...' (integration-dev@...) (integration-dev@...) <integration-dev@...> Cc: odlparent-dev@...; mdsal-dev@... Subject: Re: [integration-dev] Karaf stop command not working in Sodium. On 05/08/2019 21:42, Jamo Luhrsen wrote: ^^^ your email client has betrayed you :) Yeah, kinda ... since build #273 it looks like "Framework stop" is creating SchemaContexts. It really should not, as we should be speedily stopping. This is probably a side-effect of https://protect2.fireeye.com/url?k=b64f59e5-eac58d24-b64f197e-863d9bcb726f-ae28518222c47c71&q=1&u=https%3A%2F%2Fjira.opendaylight.org%2Fbrowse%2FMDSAL-461 fix, we have a slight optimization already staged for mdsal-4.0.4, but this needs proper looking after. Can you file an issue with mdsal? Also, can you try with https://protect2.fireeye.com/url?k=c9282245-95a2f684-c92862de-863d9bcb726f-82981d78e3f8a352&q=1&u=https%3A%2F%2Fgit.opendaylight.org%2Fgerrit%2Fc%2Fmdsal%2F%2B%2F83493 ? I'll take a look next week, as I am going offline. Regards, Robert |
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Robert Varga
On 05/08/2019 21:42, Jamo Luhrsen wrote:
^^^ your email client has betrayed you :) Yeah, kinda ... since build #273 it looks like "Framework stop" is creating SchemaContexts. It really should not, as we should be speedily stopping. This is probably a side-effect of https://jira.opendaylight.org/browse/MDSAL-461 fix, we have a slight optimization already staged for mdsal-4.0.4, but this needs proper looking after. Can you file an issue with mdsal? Also, can you try with https://git.opendaylight.org/gerrit/c/mdsal/+/83493 ? I'll take a look next week, as I am going offline. Regards, Robert |
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JamO Luhrsen
Jaya,
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you can download the same distro locally and start it and try to stop in the same manner to see what you can learn. JamO On 8/5/19 10:09 PM, Jaya Priyadarshini
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