[OpenDaylight TSC] [integration-dev] wiki pages not available


Abhijit Kumbhare
 

The current plan for migration is: 
However currently the mediawiki has more info than Confluence and will lead to dead links for Google that Jamo mentions. 

Hence I suggest we take the opposite approach:
What do you folks think?


On Tue, Feb 18, 2020 at 4:35 PM JamO Luhrsen <jluhrsen@...> wrote:
but serving up dead end pages to search results is not good for business either,
even if the pages are accessible through another link.

JamO

On 2/18/20 4:05 PM, Luis Gomez wrote:
I think we are missing the URL to the old wiki. But also any link starting with wiki.opendaylight.org has to be either migrated to confluence or changed to old wiki URL.

On Feb 18, 2020, at 3:54 PM, JamO Luhrsen <jluhrsen@...> wrote:

Hi Casey,

I know we switched over the wiki dns last week, but I thought we'd still
have access to our old wiki and that google search results would not
be broken?

Every link I hit from a search result lands me on confluence with
a "Page Not Found".

Maybe I misunderstood?

Thanks,
JamO





Casey Cain
 

Hello, everyone.

Just as a follow up.  I'm still looking into options with the team right now.  Google searches should not be sending people to the wrong links. 
I will try to provide an update today or in the morning.

Best,
Casey Cain
Technical Program Manager / Community Architect
Linux Foundation
_________________
IRC - CaseyLF
WeChat - okaru6


On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 5:57 AM FREEMAN, BRIAN D <bf1936@...> wrote:

At least have Conflunce have  a note on the 404 page so that random folks can be guided to wiki-archive .

 

I spent 30 minutes yesterday looking for some transportPCE documentation and couldn’t get to it.

 

Brian

 

 

From: TSC@... <TSC@...> On Behalf Of Abhijit Kumbhare
Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2020 8:33 PM
To: JamO Luhrsen <jluhrsen@...>
Cc: Luis Gomez <ecelgp@...>; Casey Cain <ccain@...>; integration-dev@...; tsc@...
Subject: Re: [OpenDaylight TSC] [integration-dev] wiki pages not available

 

The current plan for migration is: 

However currently the mediawiki has more info than Confluence and will lead to dead links for Google that Jamo mentions. 

 

Hence I suggest we take the opposite approach:

o   The information on this wiki may be out of date.

Please see https://wiki-new.opendaylight.org for the latest information

 

OpenDaylight logo.jpg

OpenDaylight is a highly available, modular, extensible, scalable and multi-protocol controller infrastructure built for SDN deployments on modern heterogeneous multi-vendor networks. OpenDaylight provides a model-driven service abstraction platform that allows users to write apps that easily work across a wide variety of hardware and south-bound protocols.

 

Installing, Running and Usage

§  Download

§  Install Guide

§  Deployment Guide

§  Administration Guide

§  Use Cases

§  Presentations

§  Mailing Lists

§  Q&A Forum

§  Talk to us! (On IRC)

Developers

§  Getting Started: Dev Environment Setup

§  Getting Started: Get the code!

§  Startup Project Archetype

§  Best Practices

§  JavaDoc

§  Report a Bug

§  Reporting a Security Bug

§  Security Advisories

§  Releases

§  Status of Release (Weather)

§  Infrastructure Guide

§  OpenDaylight Architecture (Current)

§  API Reference

Engage with the Community

§  Chat with us on IRC

§  Community Gatherings

§  Advisory Group

§  Technical Steering Committee

§  Technical Work Stream

§  Project Specific Meetings

§  Projects List

§  Proposing a new Project

§  Open Source Networking User Groups

§  User Groups Presenter Portal

§  Internship Program

§  Events

§  Wiki Maintenance

§  OpenDaylight Leadership

 

What do you folks think?

 

 

On Tue, Feb 18, 2020 at 4:35 PM JamO Luhrsen <jluhrsen@...> wrote:

but serving up dead end pages to search results is not good for business either,
even if the pages are accessible through another link.

JamO

On 2/18/20 4:05 PM, Luis Gomez wrote:

I think we are missing the URL to the old wiki. But also any link starting with wiki.opendaylight.org has to be either migrated to confluence or changed to old wiki URL.



On Feb 18, 2020, at 3:54 PM, JamO Luhrsen <jluhrsen@...> wrote:

 

Hi Casey,

I know we switched over the wiki dns last week, but I thought we'd still
have access to our old wiki and that google search results would not
be broken?

Every link I hit from a search result lands me on confluence with
a "Page Not Found".

Maybe I misunderstood?

Thanks,
JamO

 

 

 


Casey Cain
 

The team is adding an updated 404 page that should be ready shortly.  It will read something like:

We're sorry, this page can't seem to be found.
If you're looking for information on LF Networking please try https://wiki.lfnetworking.org.
If you are looking for information on OpenDaylight, please note that the page you are looking for may not be migrated to our new site or may be found on a different URL. Please try https://wiki.opendaylight.org
If you are still having trouble finding what you're looking for, please refer to the OpenDaylight wiki archive found at https://wiki-archive.opendaylight.org

I did a few Google searches myself and I did not see any erroneous links.  Can we get some examples?  If so, we can build links that point to the proper location.
 
Best,
Casey Cain
Technical Program Manager / Community Architect
Linux Foundation
_________________
IRC - CaseyLF
WeChat - okaru6


On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 11:36 AM Casey Cain <ccain@...> wrote:
Hello, everyone.

Just as a follow up.  I'm still looking into options with the team right now.  Google searches should not be sending people to the wrong links. 
I will try to provide an update today or in the morning.

Best,
Casey Cain
Technical Program Manager / Community Architect
Linux Foundation
_________________
IRC - CaseyLF
WeChat - okaru6


On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 5:57 AM FREEMAN, BRIAN D <bf1936@...> wrote:

At least have Conflunce have  a note on the 404 page so that random folks can be guided to wiki-archive .

 

I spent 30 minutes yesterday looking for some transportPCE documentation and couldn’t get to it.

 

Brian

 

 

From: TSC@... <TSC@...> On Behalf Of Abhijit Kumbhare
Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2020 8:33 PM
To: JamO Luhrsen <jluhrsen@...>
Cc: Luis Gomez <ecelgp@...>; Casey Cain <ccain@...>; integration-dev@...; tsc@...
Subject: Re: [OpenDaylight TSC] [integration-dev] wiki pages not available

 

The current plan for migration is: 

However currently the mediawiki has more info than Confluence and will lead to dead links for Google that Jamo mentions. 

 

Hence I suggest we take the opposite approach:

o   The information on this wiki may be out of date.

Please see https://wiki-new.opendaylight.org for the latest information

 

OpenDaylight logo.jpg

OpenDaylight is a highly available, modular, extensible, scalable and multi-protocol controller infrastructure built for SDN deployments on modern heterogeneous multi-vendor networks. OpenDaylight provides a model-driven service abstraction platform that allows users to write apps that easily work across a wide variety of hardware and south-bound protocols.

 

Installing, Running and Usage

§  Download

§  Install Guide

§  Deployment Guide

§  Administration Guide

§  Use Cases

§  Presentations

§  Mailing Lists

§  Q&A Forum

§  Talk to us! (On IRC)

Developers

§  Getting Started: Dev Environment Setup

§  Getting Started: Get the code!

§  Startup Project Archetype

§  Best Practices

§  JavaDoc

§  Report a Bug

§  Reporting a Security Bug

§  Security Advisories

§  Releases

§  Status of Release (Weather)

§  Infrastructure Guide

§  OpenDaylight Architecture (Current)

§  API Reference

Engage with the Community

§  Chat with us on IRC

§  Community Gatherings

§  Advisory Group

§  Technical Steering Committee

§  Technical Work Stream

§  Project Specific Meetings

§  Projects List

§  Proposing a new Project

§  Open Source Networking User Groups

§  User Groups Presenter Portal

§  Internship Program

§  Events

§  Wiki Maintenance

§  OpenDaylight Leadership

 

What do you folks think?

 

 

On Tue, Feb 18, 2020 at 4:35 PM JamO Luhrsen <jluhrsen@...> wrote:

but serving up dead end pages to search results is not good for business either,
even if the pages are accessible through another link.

JamO

On 2/18/20 4:05 PM, Luis Gomez wrote:

I think we are missing the URL to the old wiki. But also any link starting with wiki.opendaylight.org has to be either migrated to confluence or changed to old wiki URL.



On Feb 18, 2020, at 3:54 PM, JamO Luhrsen <jluhrsen@...> wrote:

 

Hi Casey,

I know we switched over the wiki dns last week, but I thought we'd still
have access to our old wiki and that google search results would not
be broken?

Every link I hit from a search result lands me on confluence with
a "Page Not Found".

Maybe I misunderstood?

Thanks,
JamO

 

 

 


JamO Luhrsen
 



On 2/19/20 12:13 PM, Casey Cain wrote:
The team is adding an updated 404 page that should be ready shortly.  It will read something like:

We're sorry, this page can't seem to be found.
If you're looking for information on LF Networking please try https://wiki.lfnetworking.org.
If you are looking for information on OpenDaylight, please note that the page you are looking for may not be migrated to our new site or may be found on a different URL. Please try https://wiki.opendaylight.org
If you are still having trouble finding what you're looking for, please refer to the OpenDaylight wiki archive found at https://wiki-archive.opendaylight.org

I did a few Google searches myself and I did not see any erroneous links.  Can we get some examples?  If so, we can build links that point to the proper location.

they will be numerous, in my experience:

first link in a search for how to delete a flow:
  https://bit.ly/2V7xX6a


first 3 links for what I was looking for yesterday:
  https://bit.ly/2v0HfG7

first 2 links in search for opendaylight netconf project:
  https://bit.ly/2ucMVfU


just a few quick ones so you can see what I mean.

JamO



 
Best,
Casey Cain
Technical Program Manager / Community Architect
Linux Foundation
_________________
IRC - CaseyLF
WeChat - okaru6


On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 11:36 AM Casey Cain <ccain@...> wrote:
Hello, everyone.

Just as a follow up.  I'm still looking into options with the team right now.  Google searches should not be sending people to the wrong links. 
I will try to provide an update today or in the morning.

Best,
Casey Cain
Technical Program Manager / Community Architect
Linux Foundation
_________________
IRC - CaseyLF
WeChat - okaru6


On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 5:57 AM FREEMAN, BRIAN D <bf1936@...> wrote:

At least have Conflunce have  a note on the 404 page so that random folks can be guided to wiki-archive .

 

I spent 30 minutes yesterday looking for some transportPCE documentation and couldn’t get to it.

 

Brian

 

 

From: TSC@... <TSC@...> On Behalf Of Abhijit Kumbhare
Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2020 8:33 PM
To: JamO Luhrsen <jluhrsen@...>
Cc: Luis Gomez <ecelgp@...>; Casey Cain <ccain@...>; integration-dev@...; tsc@...
Subject: Re: [OpenDaylight TSC] [integration-dev] wiki pages not available

 

The current plan for migration is: 

However currently the mediawiki has more info than Confluence and will lead to dead links for Google that Jamo mentions. 

 

Hence I suggest we take the opposite approach:

o   The information on this wiki may be out of date.

Please see https://wiki-new.opendaylight.org for the latest information

 

OpenDaylight
                                                    logo.jpg

OpenDaylight is a highly available, modular, extensible, scalable and multi-protocol controller infrastructure built for SDN deployments on modern heterogeneous multi-vendor networks. OpenDaylight provides a model-driven service abstraction platform that allows users to write apps that easily work across a wide variety of hardware and south-bound protocols.

 

Installing, Running and Usage

§  Download

§  Install Guide

§  Deployment Guide

§  Administration Guide

§  Use Cases

§  Presentations

§  Mailing Lists

§  Q&A Forum

§  Talk to us! (On IRC)

Developers

§  Getting Started: Dev Environment Setup

§  Getting Started: Get the code!

§  Startup Project Archetype

§  Best Practices

§  JavaDoc

§  Report a Bug

§  Reporting a Security Bug

§  Security Advisories

§  Releases

§  Status of Release (Weather)

§  Infrastructure Guide

§  OpenDaylight Architecture (Current)

§  API Reference

Engage with the Community

§  Chat with us on IRC

§  Community Gatherings

§  Advisory Group

§  Technical Steering Committee

§  Technical Work Stream

§  Project Specific Meetings

§  Projects List

§  Proposing a new Project

§  Open Source Networking User Groups

§  User Groups Presenter Portal

§  Internship Program

§  Events

§  Wiki Maintenance

§  OpenDaylight Leadership

 

What do you folks think?

 

 

On Tue, Feb 18, 2020 at 4:35 PM JamO Luhrsen <jluhrsen@...> wrote:

but serving up dead end pages to search results is not good for business either,
even if the pages are accessible through another link.

JamO

On 2/18/20 4:05 PM, Luis Gomez wrote:

I think we are missing the URL to the old wiki. But also any link starting with wiki.opendaylight.org has to be either migrated to confluence or changed to old wiki URL.



On Feb 18, 2020, at 3:54 PM, JamO Luhrsen <jluhrsen@...> wrote:

 

Hi Casey,

I know we switched over the wiki dns last week, but I thought we'd still
have access to our old wiki and that google search results would not
be broken?

Every link I hit from a search result lands me on confluence with
a "Page Not Found".

Maybe I misunderstood?

Thanks,
JamO

 

 

 



Luis Gomez
 

Right, I think Abhijit proposal of keeping old wiki URL may be the only short term solution, even if that will slow down the confluence adoption :(

On Feb 19, 2020, at 12:36 PM, Jamo Luhrsen <jluhrsen@...> wrote:



On 2/19/20 12:13 PM, Casey Cain wrote:
The team is adding an updated 404 page that should be ready shortly.  It will read something like:

We're sorry, this page can't seem to be found.
If you're looking for information on LF Networking please try https://wiki.lfnetworking.org.
If you are looking for information on OpenDaylight, please note that the page you are looking for may not be migrated to our new site or may be found on a different URL. Please try https://wiki.opendaylight.org
If you are still having trouble finding what you're looking for, please refer to the OpenDaylight wiki archive found at https://wiki-archive.opendaylight.org

I did a few Google searches myself and I did not see any erroneous links.  Can we get some examples?  If so, we can build links that point to the proper location.

they will be numerous, in my experience:

first link in a search for how to delete a flow:
  https://bit.ly/2V7xX6a


first 3 links for what I was looking for yesterday:
  https://bit.ly/2v0HfG7

first 2 links in search for opendaylight netconf project:
  https://bit.ly/2ucMVfU


just a few quick ones so you can see what I mean.

JamO



 
Best,
Casey Cain
Technical Program Manager / Community Architect
Linux Foundation
_________________
IRC - CaseyLF
WeChat - okaru6


On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 11:36 AM Casey Cain <ccain@...> wrote:
Hello, everyone.

Just as a follow up.  I'm still looking into options with the team right now.  Google searches should not be sending people to the wrong links. 
I will try to provide an update today or in the morning.

Best,
Casey Cain
Technical Program Manager / Community Architect
Linux Foundation
_________________
IRC - CaseyLF
WeChat - okaru6


On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 5:57 AM FREEMAN, BRIAN D <bf1936@...> wrote:

At least have Conflunce have  a note on the 404 page so that random folks can be guided to wiki-archive .

 

I spent 30 minutes yesterday looking for some transportPCE documentation and couldn’t get to it.

 

Brian

 
 

From: TSC@... <TSC@...> On Behalf Of Abhijit Kumbhare
Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2020 8:33 PM
To: JamO Luhrsen <jluhrsen@...>
Cc: Luis Gomez <ecelgp@...>; Casey Cain <ccain@...>; integration-dev@...; tsc@...
Subject: Re: [OpenDaylight TSC] [integration-dev] wiki pages not available

 

The current plan for migration is: 

However currently the mediawiki has more info than Confluence and will lead to dead links for Google that Jamo mentions. 

 

Hence I suggest we take the opposite approach:

o   The information on this wiki may be out of date.

Please see https://wiki-new.opendaylight.org for the latest information

 

OpenDaylight
                                                    logo.jpg

OpenDaylight is a highly available, modular, extensible, scalable and multi-protocol controller infrastructure built for SDN deployments on modern heterogeneous multi-vendor networks. OpenDaylight provides a model-driven service abstraction platform that allows users to write apps that easily work across a wide variety of hardware and south-bound protocols.

 

Installing, Running and Usage

§  Download

§  Install Guide

§  Deployment Guide

§  Administration Guide

§  Use Cases

§  Presentations

§  Mailing Lists

§  Q&A Forum

§  Talk to us! (On IRC)

Developers

§  Getting Started: Dev Environment Setup

§  Getting Started: Get the code!

§  Startup Project Archetype

§  Best Practices

§  JavaDoc

§  Report a Bug

§  Reporting a Security Bug

§  Security Advisories

§  Releases

§  Status of Release (Weather)

§  Infrastructure Guide

§  OpenDaylight Architecture (Current)

§  API Reference

Engage with the Community

§  Chat with us on IRC

§  Community Gatherings

§  Advisory Group

§  Technical Steering Committee

§  Technical Work Stream

§  Project Specific Meetings

§  Projects List

§  Proposing a new Project

§  Open Source Networking User Groups

§  User Groups Presenter Portal

§  Internship Program

§  Events

§  Wiki Maintenance

§  OpenDaylight Leadership

 

What do you folks think?

 
 

On Tue, Feb 18, 2020 at 4:35 PM JamO Luhrsen <jluhrsen@...> wrote:

but serving up dead end pages to search results is not good for business either,
even if the pages are accessible through another link.

JamO

On 2/18/20 4:05 PM, Luis Gomez wrote:

I think we are missing the URL to the old wiki. But also any link starting with wiki.opendaylight.org has to be either migrated to confluence or changed to old wiki URL.



On Feb 18, 2020, at 3:54 PM, JamO Luhrsen <jluhrsen@...> wrote:

 

Hi Casey,

I know we switched over the wiki dns last week, but I thought we'd still
have access to our old wiki and that google search results would not
be broken?

Every link I hit from a search result lands me on confluence with
a "Page Not Found".

Maybe I misunderstood?

Thanks,
JamO

 
 
 



FREEMAN, BRIAN D <bf1936@...>
 

At least have Conflunce have  a note on the 404 page so that random folks can be guided to wiki-archive .

 

I spent 30 minutes yesterday looking for some transportPCE documentation and couldn’t get to it.

 

Brian

 

 

From: TSC@... <TSC@...> On Behalf Of Abhijit Kumbhare
Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2020 8:33 PM
To: JamO Luhrsen <jluhrsen@...>
Cc: Luis Gomez <ecelgp@...>; Casey Cain <ccain@...>; integration-dev@...; tsc@...
Subject: Re: [OpenDaylight TSC] [integration-dev] wiki pages not available

 

The current plan for migration is: 

However currently the mediawiki has more info than Confluence and will lead to dead links for Google that Jamo mentions. 

 

Hence I suggest we take the opposite approach:

o   The information on this wiki may be out of date.

Please see https://wiki-new.opendaylight.org for the latest information

 

OpenDaylight logo.jpg

OpenDaylight is a highly available, modular, extensible, scalable and multi-protocol controller infrastructure built for SDN deployments on modern heterogeneous multi-vendor networks. OpenDaylight provides a model-driven service abstraction platform that allows users to write apps that easily work across a wide variety of hardware and south-bound protocols.

 

Installing, Running and Usage

§  Download

§  Install Guide

§  Deployment Guide

§  Administration Guide

§  Use Cases

§  Presentations

§  Mailing Lists

§  Q&A Forum

§  Talk to us! (On IRC)

Developers

§  Getting Started: Dev Environment Setup

§  Getting Started: Get the code!

§  Startup Project Archetype

§  Best Practices

§  JavaDoc

§  Report a Bug

§  Reporting a Security Bug

§  Security Advisories

§  Releases

§  Status of Release (Weather)

§  Infrastructure Guide

§  OpenDaylight Architecture (Current)

§  API Reference

Engage with the Community

§  Chat with us on IRC

§  Community Gatherings

§  Advisory Group

§  Technical Steering Committee

§  Technical Work Stream

§  Project Specific Meetings

§  Projects List

§  Proposing a new Project

§  Open Source Networking User Groups

§  User Groups Presenter Portal

§  Internship Program

§  Events

§  Wiki Maintenance

§  OpenDaylight Leadership

 

What do you folks think?

 

 

On Tue, Feb 18, 2020 at 4:35 PM JamO Luhrsen <jluhrsen@...> wrote:

but serving up dead end pages to search results is not good for business either,
even if the pages are accessible through another link.

JamO

On 2/18/20 4:05 PM, Luis Gomez wrote:

I think we are missing the URL to the old wiki. But also any link starting with wiki.opendaylight.org has to be either migrated to confluence or changed to old wiki URL.



On Feb 18, 2020, at 3:54 PM, JamO Luhrsen <jluhrsen@...> wrote:

 

Hi Casey,

I know we switched over the wiki dns last week, but I thought we'd still
have access to our old wiki and that google search results would not
be broken?

Every link I hit from a search result lands me on confluence with
a "Page Not Found".

Maybe I misunderstood?

Thanks,
JamO