[OpenDaylight TSC] [release] Micro distribution tech discussion


Robert Varga
 

On 07/11/2019 20:22, Abhijit Kumbhare wrote:
Historically we have done it over email.
Hello,

I have updated the proposal to spell out gaps in our knowledge of the
problem/solution domains here:

https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Project_Proposals:Lighty#Open_questions

We will need to provide some amount of answers in these before the
proposal can be considered complete (and thus subject to review and
approval).

Please send in your comments to this thread, or provide edits of the
page in case you have concrete data to be added to the existing text.

Also, please indicate your willingness to work on the project by listing
yourself in the committed resources -- based on the outcome of the
collaboration, we (i.e. community) will pick a set of committers to make
sure the project end up executing properly.

Thanks,
Robert




On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 10:43 AM Tejas Nevrekar <tejas.nevrekar@gmail.com
<mailto:tejas.nevrekar@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi all,

I did not find a way to add comments to the project page draft
https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Project_Proposals:Lighty. 

Is there an alternate page or can we do email? 

Regards,

Tejas. S. Nevrekar
Mobile: +91-99805 31339
Bangalore, INDIA.


On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 1:14 PM Abhijit Kumbhare
<abhijitkoss@gmail.com <mailto:abhijitkoss@gmail.com>> wrote:

Samuel,

When do you think you will be ready to move this project
proposal beyond draft to an actual proposal by sending it to the
mailing list for project proposals
<project-proposals@lists.opendaylight.org
<https://lists.opendaylight.org/g/project-proposals>>?

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Luis Gomez
 

Hi all,

I think we are losing some momentum to get something done in this release.

Let me comment on the questions that are blocking this project:

1) Relationship with other projects

I do not understand the first paragraph, can you elaborate or put an example of the problem.

Regarding the use-case packaging, can we just do the "Netconf controller" in Magnesium, that seems to be simple enough (included in Kernel projects) and what most folks I know are looking for. Later we can decide on more package flavors

2) Monlithic vs Modular service:

This seems more like a future improvement than an issue so no blocking or am I wrong?

3) Dependency injection:

What does Lighty support as dependency injection today? we can start with that to simplify.

4) Dynamic configuration:

Yes, we need changes in the existing projects to deal with the new packaging, but can we just start with Netconf in Magnesium and progressively add more projects in future releases?

5) CLI Integration:

Similar to 4) those projects interested in participating in the new packaging will have to go through some changes and/or lose some features but can we just focus on Netconf for this release?

As a summary, I do not think we have to resolve every project integration problem before we start doing anything here. Lets pick a simple use case like Netconf, start working on it, learn with the process and after add more projects. Does it make sense or am I missing something here?

BR/Luis

On Nov 12, 2019, at 8:50 AM, Robert Varga <nite@hq.sk> wrote:



On 07/11/2019 20:22, Abhijit Kumbhare wrote:
Historically we have done it over email.
Hello,

I have updated the proposal to spell out gaps in our knowledge of the
problem/solution domains here:

https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Project_Proposals:Lighty#Open_questions

We will need to provide some amount of answers in these before the
proposal can be considered complete (and thus subject to review and
approval).

Please send in your comments to this thread, or provide edits of the
page in case you have concrete data to be added to the existing text.

Also, please indicate your willingness to work on the project by listing
yourself in the committed resources -- based on the outcome of the
collaboration, we (i.e. community) will pick a set of committers to make
sure the project end up executing properly.

Thanks,
Robert




On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 10:43 AM Tejas Nevrekar <tejas.nevrekar@gmail.com
<mailto:tejas.nevrekar@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi all,

I did not find a way to add comments to the project page draft
- https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Project_Proposals:Lighty.

Is there an alternate page or can we do email?

Regards,

Tejas. S. Nevrekar
Mobile: +91-99805 31339
Bangalore, INDIA.


On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 1:14 PM Abhijit Kumbhare
<abhijitkoss@gmail.com <mailto:abhijitkoss@gmail.com>> wrote:

Samuel,

When do you think you will be ready to move this project
proposal beyond draft to an actual proposal by sending it to the
mailing list for project proposals
<project-proposals@lists.opendaylight.org
<https://lists.opendaylight.org/g/project-proposals>>?

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Abhijit Kumbhare
 

Do you guys want this on tomorrow's TSC call or do you want to continue over email?


On Tue, Dec 3, 2019 at 12:44 PM Luis Gomez <ecelgp@...> wrote:
Hi all,

I think we are losing some momentum to get something done in this release.

Let me comment on the questions that are blocking this project:

1) Relationship with other projects

I do not understand the first paragraph, can you elaborate or put an example of the problem.

Regarding the use-case packaging, can we just do the "Netconf controller" in Magnesium, that seems to be simple enough (included in Kernel projects) and what most folks I know are looking for. Later we can decide on more package flavors

2) Monlithic vs Modular service:

This seems more like a future improvement than an issue so no blocking or am I wrong?

3) Dependency injection:

What does Lighty support as dependency injection today? we can start with that to simplify.

4) Dynamic configuration:

Yes, we need changes in the existing projects to deal with the new packaging, but can we just start with Netconf in Magnesium and progressively add more projects in future releases?

5) CLI Integration:

Similar to 4) those projects interested in participating in the new packaging will have to go through some changes and/or lose some features but can we just focus on Netconf for this release?

As a summary, I do not think we have to resolve every project integration problem before we start doing anything here. Lets pick a simple use case like Netconf, start working on it, learn with the process and after add more projects. Does it make sense or am I missing something here?

BR/Luis



> On Nov 12, 2019, at 8:50 AM, Robert Varga <nite@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> On 07/11/2019 20:22, Abhijit Kumbhare wrote:
>> Historically we have done it over email.
>
> Hello,
>
> I have updated the proposal to spell out gaps in our knowledge of the
> problem/solution domains here:
>
> https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Project_Proposals:Lighty#Open_questions
>
> We will need to provide some amount of answers in these before the
> proposal can be considered complete (and thus subject to review and
> approval).
>
> Please send in your comments to this thread, or provide edits of the
> page in case you have concrete data to be added to the existing text.
>
> Also, please indicate your willingness to work on the project by listing
> yourself in the committed resources -- based on the outcome of the
> collaboration, we (i.e. community) will pick a set of committers to make
> sure the project end up executing properly.
>
> Thanks,
> Robert
>
>
>
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 10:43 AM Tejas Nevrekar <tejas.nevrekar@...
>> <mailto:tejas.nevrekar@...>> wrote:
>>
>>    Hi all,
>>
>>    I did not find a way to add comments to the project page draft
>>    - https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Project_Proposals:Lighty.
>>
>>    Is there an alternate page or can we do email?
>>
>>    Regards,
>>
>>    Tejas. S. Nevrekar
>>    Mobile: +91-99805 31339
>>    Bangalore, INDIA.
>>
>>
>>    On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 1:14 PM Abhijit Kumbhare
>>    <abhijitkoss@... <mailto:abhijitkoss@...>> wrote:
>>
>>        Samuel,
>>
>>        When do you think you will be ready to move this project
>>        proposal beyond draft to an actual proposal by sending it to the
>>        mailing list for project proposals
>>        <project-proposals@...
>>        <https://lists.opendaylight.org/g/project-proposals>>?
>>
>>        Thanks,
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