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Work with OpenDaylight for SC15 event?

Phil Robb
 

Hello Kai & Jensen:

I sent this to Richard yesterday not realizing that the leadership of the project has changed this past week.

The folks at CalTech woking on the Large Hadron Collider are using OpenDaylight to distribute the data they collect to a network of participating universities and they're interested in using ALTO as part of that effort.

However, they are having some issues in getting everything stood up.  Could you guys take a look at the email below and respond to Losif Legrand and team with any insights you may have?

Thanks in advance for your help with this.

Phil.

On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 9:45 AM, Phil Robb <probb@...> wrote:
Hi Losif:

Thanks for your detailed email regarding ALTO.  It sounds like you've got more of these regarding other ODL projects but let's take them one at a time.

I've cc-ed the lead of the docs team (Colin Dixon), a Tech-Writer we have on contract to help us with our documentation (Denise [Walters] Boehm) and the Project Lead for the ALTO project (Richard Yang).  Richard should be able to help us with getting you sorted out regarding the ALTO implementation in OpenDaylight-Lithium and Denise and Colin can take what we learn here to improve the documentation in the future.

Further comments inline below...

On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 3:38 AM, Iosif Legrand <Iosif.Legrand@...> wrote:
Hello Phil,


Thank you very much for your email and the links to the documentation.

Unfortunately there are significant  discrepancy between  documentation and
and the distribution (Lithium)  we are trying to use .

Actually, the problem you are running into is not due to stale documentation from a previous release.  Lithium is the first release that contained ALTO.... not that it makes the situation any better.
 

I would like to show you the example for ALTO:

From "ALTO:Lithium User Guide" (https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/ALTO:Lithium_User_Guide)
these are the instructions to install ALTO :

To enable ALTO, the features must be installed first. 

 feature:install odl-alto-provider
 feature:install odl-alto-manager
 feature:install odl-alto-northbound
 feature:install odl-alto-hosttracker

From what I can see Losif you are correct.  The page you reference, and the documentation in the Lithium User Guide (page 23) is incorrect.  I believe the correct documentation for the installation of ALTO is in the Lithium Getting Started Guide (page 5) with the command "feature:install odl-alto-all".  Richard Yang, please confirm this.

Denise, as you can see, our problem will often be not that the correct documentation isn't available, but that it is that it is lost in a sea of incorrect information.
 

      From these 4 modules the first two do not work :

      

      opendaylight-user@root>feature:install odl-alto-provider

      Error executing command: No feature matching
      odl-alto-provider/0.0.0

      opendaylight-user@root>feature:install odl-alto-manager

      Error executing command: No feature matching
      odl-alto-manager/0.0.0

      opendaylight-user@root>feature:install odl-alto-northbound

      opendaylight-user@root>feature:install odl-alto-hosttracker

      

      If I list all the modules in karaf , these are the available
      modules for alto :

      

      odl-alto-release                              

      odl-alto-core                                 

      odl-alto-basic                                

      odl-alto-extension                            

      odl-alto-standard-types                       

      odl-alto-resourcepool                         

      odl-alto-northbound                           

      odl-alto-standard-service-model              

      odl-alto-standard-northbound-route           

      odl-alto-standard-resource-translator         

      odl-alto-ird                                 

      odl-alto-manual-maps                       

      odl-alto-hosttracker                          

      odl-alto-nonstandard-types                   

      odl-alto-nonstandard-service-model            

      odl-alto-nonstandard-northbound-route         

      odl-messaging4transport-api                   

      odl-messaging4transport  

      

      There  are 18 ALTO modules . 

This will not be uncommon for modules within OpenDaylight's Karaf distribution Losif.  Many projects create various karaf bundles for their own purposes in a finer granularity than is significant to the end user.  We have "user facing karaf features" that aggregate multiple smaller bundles into a collection that is exposed and documented to the end user.  I have a feeling, in the beginning, the ALTO team thought that the four user facing features made sense, but at some point along the way changed to just using "alto-all" to fully install the full ALTO functionality.  Richard, feel free to correct me or add additional insights.
 

      

      The documentation describes only the  ALTO -manager but this 

      modules does not exist anymore in the distribution. 

      All these new modules  are totally undocumented. 

      

      After installing these new modules I tried to only 

      example on the documentation page using the apidoc 

      explorer and it does not seem to work. 

      I also tried using curl on cli. 

I would have expected that if you loaded all the ALTO features, that was equivalent to installing "alto-all".  Richard, can you or someone from the ALTO project help Losif and his team get ALTO up and running in their environment?
 

      

      Changing the name of the modules and adding many 

      new undocumented modules for the same 

      distribution ( Lithium) makes it really difficult to use it .

      

      

      

      In my option, it will be very  useful  for the users to have a set
      

      of simple / realistic examples in how to use these modules. 

Basic/simple examples would clearly help.  Thanks for the suggstion Losif.  Denise, lets see if we can get these as we do per-project interviews in the coming weeks.

Best,

Phil.
 

      

      

      Thanks a lot for all your help.

      

      

      Best Regards,

      Iosif 

      

      

      

      

      

      

      On 10/29/2015 02:22 AM, Phil Robb wrote:

    

    

      
      
Hello Everyone:
        


        

        
My apologies for missing this thread entirely until now. 
          It's totally my bad. 

        


        

        
I'd like to start with a level set so that I know where
          everyone is in getting up to speed.

        


        

        
First off, yes trying to search for documentation via
          google is particularly painful for OpenDaylight.  The Hydrogen
          release of the documentation was implemented on the wiki but
          for most of Helium and all of Lithium the user facing
          documentation has been compiled into PDF documents on the
          OpenDaylight.org site.  So the best curated documentation we
          have is in our pdf based documents on the OpenDaylight.org
          site and that isn't crawled by google (but the very stale wiki
          pages are).  Are you all familiar with the documents produced
          and available for download here?: https://www.opendaylight.org/downloads

        


        

        
Second, did anyone get the chance to attend the ODL Summit
          and take the day-long tutorial given by Ed Warnicke on "A
          Grand Tour Of Coding For OpenDaylight"?  For anyone that did
          not, it will be helpful to go through that material.  We have
          a wiki page that includes the 16 labs done in the tutorial
          along with the slides presented, the USB image that was
          distributed and used throughout the tutorial and youtube video
          recordings that comprise the day-long event.  At the Summit
          they only got through 13 of the 16 tutorials so that is all
          you'll see on the recording.  I'm working with Ed to have him
          record the last 3 labs for completeness but that is not done
          yet.  If you watch this and have questions, please reach out
          to Ed on irc (he's a bit hit-or-miss via email).  Ed's irc
          handle is "edwarnicke"

        


        

        
Next, the best resource for each project is their
          individual project page on the wiki.  Each project is required
          to have one and keep it up to date.  Also on it is a project
          "Fact Box" that contains the contact information for the
          project lead and all committers as well as their mailing list,
          irc channel, meeting information etc.  In addition each page
          often contains pointers to their most recent wiki page
          documentation and any other relevant resources.  The full list
          is here: https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Project_list
          and the specific projects in question are here:

        
        
        
        
        
        
        


        

        
Also note, that if you are ever concerned that something
          might be out of date, just click on the "view history" tab at
          the top of the wiki page.  That will show you when the most
          recent changes were made giving you some level of confidence
          on the "freshness" of the material.

        


        

        
If you've not yet looked through the above material please
          do so and let me know if it helps.  The next step will be to
          reach out to the Project leads for each of the above either on
          the mailing lists or irc channels with your specific
          questions.  What the community lacks in documentation (and we
          know we lack in documentation) we make up for in timely
          responses to your questions... unless your request gets lost
          in my inbox... but I've already covered that above in this
          email... and again, sorry about that.

        


        

        
Best,

        


        

        
Phil.

        


        

        


        

        

          
On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 9:42 PM,
            Iosif Legrand <Iosif.Legrand@...>
            wrote:

            
Hello
              Melissa,

              

              

              Thank you very much for your email.

              

              I would  like to learn more about using Yang tools

              in the ODL framework to setup and control  flows .

              I saw many presentations describing the power and

              flexibility for this approach , but is  hard to find

              documentation and  simple/realistic examples in using it .

              

              I am also interested to learn using ALTO, LACP, Opflex,
              Intend .

              

              A significant part of the on-line documentation

              (using web search engines) or examples  is for Hydrogen or
              Helium

              releases and   is not updated for the Lithium version.

              In the doc wiki pages there are many broken links or links
              to

              old version for the documentation.

              

              I think that good documentation is very important for such
              a complex

              project.  I also believe that having  simple  examples in
              using

              ODL framework for realistic problems / configuration will
              help a

              lot the user community .

              

              

              Best Regards,

              ioji
              

                


                  

                  

                  

                  On 9/23/2015 7:06 PM, Melissa Logan wrote:

                

              

              

                

                  

                    Hi Losif,

                    

                    Thank you for that feedback. The good news is that
                    we'll soon have a

                    resource who will be updating key documentation, but
                    it may take some time

                    before you see the results. Which projects
                    specifically do you need help

                    with? We may be able to find community members who
                    can help.

                    

                    Melissa

                    

                    On Wed, Sep 23, 2015 at 9:15 AM, Iosif Legrand <Iosif.Legrand@...>

                    wrote:

                    

                  

                

                

                  

                    

                      Hello ,

                      

                      I am trying to learn it and use it in our
                      environment.

                      There are several new interesting projects /
                      modules in Lithium

                      but is no  appropriate documentation and examples
                      in how to use them.

                      This is most frustrating part .

                      

                      Regards,

                      Iosif

                      

                      

                      

                      On 09/23/2015 04:57 PM, Harvey Newman wrote:

                      

                      Iosif is studying Lithium and can comment.

                      Harvey

                      

                      

                      On 9/23/2015 7:10 AM, Melissa Logan wrote:

                      

                      OK great! We will be in touch with the materials
                      for input.

                      

                      With regard to Lithium, how is that progressing
                      for you?

                      On Sep 23, 2015 6:50 AM, "Harvey Newman" <newman@...>
                      wrote:

                      

                    

                  

                  

                    

                      

                          Dear Melissa,

                        

                        I am open to this and would be glad to follow
                        this up with you.

                        

                        Regards

                        Harvey

                        

                        

                        

                        On 9/22/2015 8:50 PM, Melissa Logan wrote:

                        

                        Hi Harvey, Julian and Dorian!

                        

                        I hope you're all doing well. Have you found any
                        dark matter yet, or

                        hints of supersymmetry?

                        

                        With regard to SC15, we wondered if you would
                        you have the ability to

                        debut or show the video we created with you
                        folks? We thought that might be

                        a perfect venue to debut it (i.e. if you have a
                        TV in your booth, or

                        perhaps during a paper presentation if that
                        makes sense?) while we would

                        publish it on our blog, social media, newsletter
                        etc. What do you think?

                        

                        We could even perhaps schedule interviews with a
                        couple HPC reporters

                        (e.g. HPCwire, ZDNet) who might be interested in
                        hearing about your

                        experiences, as well as ODL's perspective. Would
                        you be open to that? If so

                        we can get the video finalized by early October
                        and start reaching out to

                        reporters around mid to late October to pitch.

                        

                        Melissa

                        

                        

                        On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 9:55 AM, Jill Lovato
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                    wrote:

                    

                    

                      

                        

                          Hi Harvey,

                          

                          That's great news!  Please keep us updated on
                          your submission and paper,

                          and feel free to pass along both the abstract
                          you submitted as well as the

                          paper for reference.

                          

                          We'd like to release the CERN video in tandem
                          with SC15. Your presence

                          and presentation at the event and discussion
                          of OpenDaylight use would be a

                          good compliment to our promotional efforts
                          surrounding the video. We may

                          also want to set up some press briefings at
                          that time. Let us know if you

                          have any concerns with that approach,
                          otherwise we'll move forward.

                          

                          As for assistance with the release and the
                          packages, we'd love to help.

                          Let us know what you need and we can put you
                          in touch with our technical

                          director, Phil Robb, and perhaps some other
                          members of the OpenDaylight

                          community, to get that moving.

                          

                          Thanks,

                          Jill

                          

                          On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 11:54 PM, Harvey
                          Newman <newman@...>

                          wrote:

                          

                        

                      

                      

                        

                          

                            Hi Jill and Melissa,

                            

                            Indeed we are preparing for SC15 and part of
                            our plan is to talk

                            about our experiences with OpenDaylight.
                            Julian and Dorian

                            just submitted an abstract to the INDIS
                            workshop on our

                            SC14 experiences and more recent progress,
                            and a paper is

                            (very shortly) due.

                            

                            We will also mention some of the same
                            progress in the ESnet

                            R&D workshop planned at about the same
                            time.

                            

                            Best regards

                            Harvey

                            

                            PS Your contact with us also is opportune in
                            that we would like

                            to present a strong case for ODL Lithium.
                            For that to happen

                            we would need some assistance with the
                            release as it continues

                            to evolve, and for some of the packages to
                            settle down by October

                            or earlier. We understand that other users
                            have had similar recent

                            experience.

                            

                            

                            On 8/12/2015 3:05 AM, Jill Lovato wrote:

                            

                            Hi Julian and Harvey,

                            

                            Hope you are doing well! I work with Melissa
                            Logan on PR for

                            OpenDaylight, and am reaching out regarding
                            the Supercomputing 2015

                            conference in Austin November 15-20: <http://sc15.supercomputing.org/>

                            http://sc15.supercomputing.org/

                            

                            We don't currently have plans to participate
                            in the event, but are

                            thinking it might be really compelling to
                            the community to talk about how

                            Caltech is using OpenDaylight. We're going
                            to get more details on the event

                            and various presentation options, but wanted
                            to reach out now to see if

                            this is something you'd be interested in;
                            we'd love to work with you on

                            something!

                            

                            Looking forward to your thoughts on this,
                            and we'll be in touch again

                            when we have more details.

                            

                            Thank you,

                            Jill

                            

                            

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    Much appreciated Phil and All.

    

    As you can see we have some very specific questions,

    and an issue of documentation as well.

    

    Thanks for following this through with Iosif

    

     (and the other team members cited).

    

    Best regards

    Harvey

    

    

    
On 10/30/2015 4:22 PM, Phil Robb wrote:

    

    

        
          
          

          

            

      
Hello Kai & Jensen:
        


        

        
I sent this to Richard yesterday not realizing that the
          leadership of the project has changed this past week.

        


        

        
The folks at CalTech woking on the Large Hadron Collider
          are using OpenDaylight to distribute the data they collect to
          a network of participating universities and they're interested
          in using ALTO as part of that effort.

        


        

        
However, they are having some issues in getting everything
          stood up.  Could you guys take a look at the email below and
          respond to Losif Legrand and team with any insights you may
          have?

        


        

        
Thanks in advance for your help with this.

        


        

        
Phil.

        


          
On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 9:45 AM, Phil
            Robb <probb@...>
            wrote:

            

              
Hi Losif:
                


                

                
Thanks for your detailed email regarding ALTO.  It
                  sounds like you've got more of these regarding other
                  ODL projects but let's take them one at a time.

                


                

                
I've cc-ed the lead of the docs team (Colin Dixon),
                  a Tech-Writer we have on contract to help us with our
                  documentation (Denise [Walters] Boehm) and the Project
                  Lead for the ALTO project (Richard Yang).  Richard
                  should be able to help us with getting you sorted out
                  regarding the ALTO implementation in
                  OpenDaylight-Lithium and Denise and Colin can take
                  what we learn here to improve the documentation in the
                  future.

                


                

                
Further comments inline below...

                  


                    
On Fri, Oct
                        30, 2015 at 3:38 AM, Iosif Legrand <Iosif.Legrand@...>
                        wrote:

                        

                          

                            
Hello Phil,

                              

                              

                              Thank you very much for your email and the
                              links to the documentation. 

                              

                              Unfortunately there are significant 
                              discrepancy between  documentation and 

                              and the distribution (Lithium)  we are
                              trying to use .

                            

                          

                        

                        


                        

                      
                      
Actually, the problem you are running into is
                        not due to stale documentation from a previous
                        release.  Lithium is the first release that
                        contained ALTO.... not that it makes the
                        situation any better.

                      
                        
 

                        

                          

                            
 

                              I would like to show you the example for
                              ALTO:

                              

                              From "ALTO:Lithium User Guide" (https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/ALTO:Lithium_User_Guide)

                              these are the instructions to install ALTO
                              :

                              

                              
To enable ALTO, the features must be
                                installed first. 

                              
 feature:install odl-alto-provider
 feature:install odl-alto-manager
 feature:install odl-alto-northbound
 feature:install odl-alto-hosttracker

                            

                          

                        

                        


                        

                      
                      
From what I can see Losif you are correct. 
                        The page you reference, and the documentation in
                        the Lithium User Guide (page 23) is incorrect. 
                        I believe the correct documentation for the
                        installation of ALTO is in the Lithium Getting
                        Started Guide (page 5) with the command
                        "feature:install odl-alto-all".  Richard Yang,
                        please confirm this.

                      


                      

                      
Denise, as you can see, our problem will
                        often be not that the correct documentation
                        isn't available, but that it is that it is lost
                        in a sea of incorrect information.

                      

                        

                          
 

                          

                            

                              
 From these 4 modules the first two
                                do not work :

                                

                                opendaylight-user@root>feature:install
                                odl-alto-provider

                                Error executing command: No feature
                                matching odl-alto-provider/0.0.0

                                opendaylight-user@root>feature:install
                                odl-alto-manager

                                Error executing command: No feature
                                matching odl-alto-manager/0.0.0

                                opendaylight-user@root>feature:install
                                odl-alto-northbound

                                opendaylight-user@root>feature:install
                                odl-alto-hosttracker

                                

                                If I list all the modules in karaf ,
                                these are the available modules for alto
                                :

                                

                                odl-alto-release                             
                                

                                odl-alto-core                                
                                

                                odl-alto-basic                               
                                

                                odl-alto-extension                           
                                

                                odl-alto-standard-types                      
                                

                                odl-alto-resourcepool                        
                                

                                odl-alto-northbound                          
                                

                                odl-alto-standard-service-model             
                                

                                odl-alto-standard-northbound-route          
                                

                                odl-alto-standard-resource-translator        
                                

                                odl-alto-ird                                
                                

                                odl-alto-manual-maps                      
                                

                                odl-alto-hosttracker                         
                                

                                odl-alto-nonstandard-types                  
                                

                                odl-alto-nonstandard-service-model           
                                

                                odl-alto-nonstandard-northbound-route        
                                

                                odl-messaging4transport-api                  
                                

                                odl-messaging4transport  

                                

                                There  are 18 ALTO modules . 

                              

                            

                          

                          


                          

                        

                      

                      
This will not be uncommon for modules within
                        OpenDaylight's Karaf distribution Losif.  Many
                        projects create various karaf bundles for their
                        own purposes in a finer granularity than is
                        significant to the end user.  We have "user
                        facing karaf features" that aggregate multiple
                        smaller bundles into a collection that is
                        exposed and documented to the end user.  I have
                        a feeling, in the beginning, the ALTO team
                        thought that the four user facing features made
                        sense, but at some point along the way changed
                        to just using "alto-all" to fully install the
                        full ALTO functionality.  Richard, feel free to
                        correct me or add additional insights.

                      
                        
 

                        

                          

                            
 

                              The documentation describes only the  ALTO
                              -manager but this 

                              modules does not exist anymore in the
                              distribution. 

                              All these new modules  are totally
                              undocumented. 

                              

                              After installing these new modules I tried
                              to only 

                              example on the documentation page using
                              the apidoc 

                              explorer and it does not seem to work. 

                              I also tried using curl on cli. 

                            

                          

                        

                        


                        

                      
                      
I would have expected that if you loaded all
                        the ALTO features, that was equivalent to
                        installing "alto-all".  Richard, can you or
                        someone from the ALTO project help Losif and his
                        team get ALTO up and running in their
                        environment?

                      
                        
 

                        

                          

                            
 

                              Changing the name of the modules and
                              adding many 

                              new undocumented modules for the same 

                              distribution ( Lithium) makes it really
                              difficult to use it .

                              

                              

                              

                              In my option, it will be very  useful  for
                              the users to have a set 

                              of simple / realistic examples in how to
                              use these modules. 

                            

                          

                        

                        


                        

                      
                      
Basic/simple examples would clearly help. 
                        Thanks for the suggstion Losif.  Denise, lets
                        see if we can get these as we do per-project
                        interviews in the coming weeks.

                      


                      

                      
Best,

                      


                      

                      
Phil.

                      

                        

                          
 

                          

                            

                              
 

                                

                                Thanks a lot for all your help.

                                

                                

                                Best Regards,

                                Iosif 

                                

                                  
 

                                    

                                    

                                    

                                    

                                    

                                    On 10/29/2015 02:22 AM, Phil Robb
                                    wrote:

                                  

                                

                              

                              

                                

                                  

                                    
Hello Everyone:
                                      


                                      

                                      
My apologies for missing this
                                        thread entirely until now.  It's
                                        totally my bad. 

                                      


                                      

                                      
I'd like to start with a
                                        level set so that I know where
                                        everyone is in getting up to
                                        speed.

                                      


                                      

                                      
First off, yes trying to
                                        search for documentation via
                                        google is particularly painful
                                        for OpenDaylight.  The Hydrogen
                                        release of the documentation was
                                        implemented on the wiki but for
                                        most of Helium and all of
                                        Lithium the user facing
                                        documentation has been compiled
                                        into PDF documents on the
                                        OpenDaylight.org site.  So the
                                        best curated documentation we
                                        have is in our pdf based
                                        documents on the
                                        OpenDaylight.org site and that
                                        isn't crawled by google (but the
                                        very stale wiki pages are).  Are
                                        you all familiar with the
                                        documents produced and available
                                        for download here?: https://www.opendaylight.org/downloads

                                      


                                      

                                      
Second, did anyone get the
                                        chance to attend the ODL Summit
                                        and take the day-long tutorial
                                        given by Ed Warnicke on "A Grand
                                        Tour Of Coding For
                                        OpenDaylight"?  For anyone that
                                        did not, it will be helpful to
                                        go through that material.  We
                                        have a wiki page that includes
                                        the 16 labs done in the tutorial
                                        along with the slides presented,
                                        the USB image that was
                                        distributed and used throughout
                                        the tutorial and youtube video
                                        recordings that comprise the
                                        day-long event.  At the Summit
                                        they only got through 13 of the
                                        16 tutorials so that is all
                                        you'll see on the recording. 
                                        I'm working with Ed to have him
                                        record the last 3 labs for
                                        completeness but that is not
                                        done yet.  If you watch this and
                                        have questions, please reach out
                                        to Ed on irc (he's a bit
                                        hit-or-miss via email).  Ed's
                                        irc handle is "edwarnicke"

                                      


                                      

                                      
Next, the best resource for
                                        each project is their individual
                                        project page on the wiki.  Each
                                        project is required to have one
                                        and keep it up to date.  Also on
                                        it is a project "Fact Box" that
                                        contains the contact information
                                        for the project lead and all
                                        committers as well as their
                                        mailing list, irc channel,
                                        meeting information etc.  In
                                        addition each page often
                                        contains pointers to their most
                                        recent wiki page documentation
                                        and any other relevant
                                        resources.  The full list is
                                        here: https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Project_list
                                        and the specific projects in
                                        question are here:

                                      
                                      
                                      
                                      
                                      
                                      
                                      


                                      

                                      
Also note, that if you are
                                        ever concerned that something
                                        might be out of date, just click
                                        on the "view history" tab at the
                                        top of the wiki page.  That will
                                        show you when the most recent
                                        changes were made giving you
                                        some level of confidence on the
                                        "freshness" of the material.

                                      


                                      

                                      
If you've not yet looked
                                        through the above material
                                        please do so and let me know if
                                        it helps.  The next step will be
                                        to reach out to the Project
                                        leads for each of the above
                                        either on the mailing lists or
                                        irc channels with your specific
                                        questions.  What the community
                                        lacks in documentation (and we
                                        know we lack in documentation)
                                        we make up for in timely
                                        responses to your questions...
                                        unless your request gets lost in
                                        my inbox... but I've already
                                        covered that above in this
                                        email... and again, sorry about
                                        that.

                                      


                                      

                                      
Best,

                                      


                                      

                                      
Phil.

                                      


                                      

                                      


                                      

                                      

                                        
On Thu,
                                          Sep 24, 2015 at 9:42 PM, Iosif
                                          Legrand <Iosif.Legrand@...>
                                          wrote:

                                          
Hello

                                            Melissa,

                                            

                                            

                                            Thank you very much for your
                                            email.

                                            

                                            I would  like to learn more
                                            about using Yang tools

                                            in the ODL framework to
                                            setup and control  flows .

                                            I saw many presentations
                                            describing the power and

                                            flexibility for this
                                            approach , but is  hard to
                                            find

                                            documentation and 
                                            simple/realistic examples in
                                            using it .

                                            

                                            I am also interested to
                                            learn using ALTO, LACP,
                                            Opflex, Intend .

                                            

                                            A significant part of the
                                            on-line documentation

                                            (using web search engines)
                                            or examples  is for Hydrogen
                                            or Helium

                                            releases and   is not
                                            updated for the Lithium
                                            version.

                                            In the doc wiki pages there
                                            are many broken links or
                                            links to

                                            old version for the
                                            documentation.

                                            

                                            I think that good
                                            documentation is very
                                            important for such a complex

                                            project.  I also believe
                                            that having  simple 
                                            examples in using

                                            ODL framework for realistic
                                            problems / configuration
                                            will help a

                                            lot the user community .

                                            

                                            

                                            Best Regards,

                                            ioji
                                            

                                              


                                                

                                                

                                                

                                                On 9/23/2015 7:06 PM,
                                                Melissa Logan wrote:

                                              

                                            

                                            

                                              

                                                
 Hi Losif,

                                                  

                                                  Thank you for that
                                                  feedback. The good
                                                  news is that we'll
                                                  soon have a

                                                  resource who will be
                                                  updating key
                                                  documentation, but it
                                                  may take some time

                                                  before you see the
                                                  results. Which
                                                  projects specifically
                                                  do you need help

                                                  with? We may be able
                                                  to find community
                                                  members who can help.

                                                  

                                                  Melissa

                                                  

                                                  On Wed, Sep 23, 2015
                                                  at 9:15 AM, Iosif
                                                  Legrand <Iosif.Legrand@...>

                                                  wrote:

                                                  

                                                

                                              

                                              

                                                

                                                  
 Hello ,

                                                    

                                                    I am trying to learn
                                                    it and use it in our
                                                    environment.

                                                    There are several
                                                    new interesting
                                                    projects / modules
                                                    in Lithium

                                                    but is no 
                                                    appropriate
                                                    documentation and
                                                    examples in how to
                                                    use them.

                                                    This is most
                                                    frustrating part .

                                                    

                                                    Regards,

                                                    Iosif

                                                    

                                                    

                                                    

                                                    On 09/23/2015 04:57
                                                    PM, Harvey Newman
                                                    wrote:

                                                    

                                                    Iosif is studying
                                                    Lithium and can
                                                    comment.

                                                    Harvey

                                                    

                                                    

                                                    On 9/23/2015 7:10
                                                    AM, Melissa Logan
                                                    wrote:

                                                    

                                                    OK great! We will be
                                                    in touch with the
                                                    materials for input.

                                                    

                                                    With regard to
                                                    Lithium, how is that
                                                    progressing for you?

                                                    On Sep 23, 2015 6:50
                                                    AM, "Harvey Newman"
                                                    <newman@...>

                                                    wrote:

                                                    

                                                  

                                                

                                                

                                                  

                                                    
   Dear
                                                      Melissa,

                                                      

                                                      I am open to this
                                                      and would be glad
                                                      to follow this up
                                                      with you.

                                                      

                                                      Regards

                                                      Harvey

                                                      

                                                      

                                                      

                                                      On 9/22/2015 8:50
                                                      PM, Melissa Logan
                                                      wrote:

                                                      

                                                      Hi Harvey, Julian
                                                      and Dorian!

                                                      

                                                      I hope you're all
                                                      doing well. Have
                                                      you found any dark
                                                      matter yet, or

                                                      hints of
                                                      supersymmetry?

                                                      

                                                      With regard to
                                                      SC15, we wondered
                                                      if you would you
                                                      have the ability
                                                      to

                                                      debut or show the
                                                      video we created
                                                      with you folks? We
                                                      thought that might
                                                      be

                                                      a perfect venue to
                                                      debut it (i.e. if
                                                      you have a TV in
                                                      your booth, or

                                                      perhaps during a
                                                      paper presentation
                                                      if that makes
                                                      sense?) while we
                                                      would

                                                      publish it on our
                                                      blog, social
                                                      media, newsletter
                                                      etc. What do you
                                                      think?

                                                      

                                                      We could even
                                                      perhaps schedule
                                                      interviews with a
                                                      couple HPC
                                                      reporters

                                                      (e.g. HPCwire,
                                                      ZDNet) who might
                                                      be interested in
                                                      hearing about your

                                                      experiences, as
                                                      well as ODL's
                                                      perspective. Would
                                                      you be open to
                                                      that? If so

                                                      we can get the
                                                      video finalized by
                                                      early October and
                                                      start reaching out
                                                      to

                                                      reporters around
                                                      mid to late
                                                      October to pitch.

                                                      

                                                      Melissa

                                                      

                                                      

                                                      On Fri, Aug 21,
                                                      2015 at 9:55 AM,
                                                      Jill Lovato <

                                                    

                                                  

                                                  <jlovato@...>jlovato@...>

                                                  wrote:

                                                  

                                                  

                                                    

                                                      
 Hi Harvey,

                                                        

                                                        That's great
                                                        news!  Please
                                                        keep us updated
                                                        on your
                                                        submission and
                                                        paper,

                                                        and feel free to
                                                        pass along both
                                                        the abstract you
                                                        submitted as
                                                        well as the

                                                        paper for
                                                        reference.

                                                        

                                                        We'd like to
                                                        release the CERN
                                                        video in tandem
                                                        with SC15. Your
                                                        presence

                                                        and presentation
                                                        at the event and
                                                        discussion of
                                                        OpenDaylight use
                                                        would be a

                                                        good compliment
                                                        to our
                                                        promotional
                                                        efforts
                                                        surrounding the
                                                        video. We may

                                                        also want to set
                                                        up some press
                                                        briefings at
                                                        that time. Let
                                                        us know if you

                                                        have any
                                                        concerns with
                                                        that approach,
                                                        otherwise we'll
                                                        move forward.

                                                        

                                                        As for
                                                        assistance with
                                                        the release and
                                                        the packages,
                                                        we'd love to
                                                        help.

                                                        Let us know what
                                                        you need and we
                                                        can put you in
                                                        touch with our
                                                        technical

                                                        director, Phil
                                                        Robb, and
                                                        perhaps some
                                                        other members of
                                                        the OpenDaylight

                                                        community, to
                                                        get that moving.

                                                        

                                                        Thanks,

                                                        Jill

                                                        

                                                        On Tue, Aug 11,
                                                        2015 at 11:54
                                                        PM, Harvey
                                                        Newman <newman@...>

                                                        wrote:

                                                        

                                                      

                                                    

                                                    

                                                      

                                                        
 Hi Jill
                                                          and Melissa,

                                                          

                                                          Indeed we are
                                                          preparing for
                                                          SC15 and part
                                                          of our plan is
                                                          to talk

                                                          about our
                                                          experiences
                                                          with
                                                          OpenDaylight.
                                                          Julian and
                                                          Dorian

                                                          just submitted
                                                          an abstract to
                                                          the INDIS
                                                          workshop on
                                                          our

                                                          SC14
                                                          experiences
                                                          and more
                                                          recent
                                                          progress, and
                                                          a paper is

                                                          (very shortly)
                                                          due.

                                                          

                                                          We will also
                                                          mention some
                                                          of the same
                                                          progress in
                                                          the ESnet

                                                          R&D
                                                          workshop
                                                          planned at
                                                          about the same
                                                          time.

                                                          

                                                          Best regards

                                                          Harvey

                                                          

                                                          PS Your
                                                          contact with
                                                          us also is
                                                          opportune in
                                                          that we would
                                                          like

                                                          to present a
                                                          strong case
                                                          for ODL
                                                          Lithium. For
                                                          that to happen

                                                          we would need
                                                          some
                                                          assistance
                                                          with the
                                                          release as it
                                                          continues

                                                          to evolve, and
                                                          for some of
                                                          the packages
                                                          to settle down
                                                          by October

                                                          or earlier. We
                                                          understand
                                                          that other
                                                          users have had
                                                          similar recent

                                                          experience.

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          On 8/12/2015
                                                          3:05 AM, Jill
                                                          Lovato wrote:

                                                          

                                                          Hi Julian and
                                                          Harvey,

                                                          

                                                          Hope you are
                                                          doing well! I
                                                          work with
                                                          Melissa Logan
                                                          on PR for

                                                          OpenDaylight,
                                                          and am
                                                          reaching out
                                                          regarding the
                                                          Supercomputing
                                                          2015

                                                          conference in
                                                          Austin
                                                          November
                                                          15-20: <http://sc15.supercomputing.org/>

                                                          http://sc15.supercomputing.org/

                                                          

                                                          We don't
                                                          currently have
                                                          plans to
                                                          participate in
                                                          the event, but
                                                          are

                                                          thinking it
                                                          might be
                                                          really
                                                          compelling to
                                                          the community
                                                          to talk about
                                                          how

                                                          Caltech is
                                                          using
                                                          OpenDaylight.
                                                          We're going to
                                                          get more
                                                          details on the
                                                          event

                                                          and various
                                                          presentation
                                                          options, but
                                                          wanted to
                                                          reach out now
                                                          to see if

                                                          this is
                                                          something
                                                          you'd be
                                                          interested in;
                                                          we'd love to
                                                          work with you
                                                          on

                                                          something!

                                                          

                                                          Looking
                                                          forward to
                                                          your thoughts
                                                          on this, and
                                                          we'll be in
                                                          touch again

                                                          when we have
                                                          more details.

                                                          

                                                          Thank you,

                                                          Jill

                                                          

                                                          

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Hi Losif,

Thanks for your feedback.

"ALTO:Lithium User Guide"
      (https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/ALTO:Lithium_User_Guide) assumes that you are using OpenDaylight Lithium Release. But It seems that you are not using the Lithium Release. These modules you list in karaf are in our master branch, so the Lithium User Guide is not fit for them.

However, I am not sure how you install your OpenDaylight. May I get your command-line history or some logs so that we can help you better?

BTW. I think you can get the pre-built version of ODL Lithium-SR2 from this link (https://www.opendaylight.org/downloads).

Regards,
Jensen


2015-10-31 7:29 GMT+08:00 Harvey Newman <newman@...>:

        
          
          

          

            

  
    
  
  

    Much appreciated Phil and All.

    

    As you can see we have some very specific questions,

    and an issue of documentation as well.

    

    Thanks for following this through with Iosif

    

     (and the other team members cited).

    

    Best regards

    Harvey


    

    

    
On 10/30/2015 4:22 PM, Phil Robb wrote:

    

    

      
Hello Kai & Jensen:
        


        

        
I sent this to Richard yesterday not realizing that the
          leadership of the project has changed this past week.

        


        

        
The folks at CalTech woking on the Large Hadron Collider
          are using OpenDaylight to distribute the data they collect to
          a network of participating universities and they're interested
          in using ALTO as part of that effort.

        


        

        
However, they are having some issues in getting everything
          stood up.  Could you guys take a look at the email below and
          respond to Losif Legrand and team with any insights you may
          have?

        


        

        
Thanks in advance for your help with this.

        


        

        
Phil.

        


          
On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 9:45 AM, Phil
            Robb <probb@...>
            wrote:

            

              
Hi Losif:
                


                

                
Thanks for your detailed email regarding ALTO.  It
                  sounds like you've got more of these regarding other
                  ODL projects but let's take them one at a time.

                


                

                
I've cc-ed the lead of the docs team (Colin Dixon),
                  a Tech-Writer we have on contract to help us with our
                  documentation (Denise [Walters] Boehm) and the Project
                  Lead for the ALTO project (Richard Yang).  Richard
                  should be able to help us with getting you sorted out
                  regarding the ALTO implementation in
                  OpenDaylight-Lithium and Denise and Colin can take
                  what we learn here to improve the documentation in the
                  future.

                


                

                
Further comments inline below...

                  


                    
On Fri, Oct
                        30, 2015 at 3:38 AM, Iosif Legrand <Iosif.Legrand@...>
                        wrote:

                        

                          

                            
Hello Phil,

                              

                              

                              Thank you very much for your email and the
                              links to the documentation. 

                              

                              Unfortunately there are significant 
                              discrepancy between  documentation and 

                              and the distribution (Lithium)  we are
                              trying to use .

                            

                          

                        

                        


                        

                      
                      
Actually, the problem you are running into is
                        not due to stale documentation from a previous
                        release.  Lithium is the first release that
                        contained ALTO.... not that it makes the
                        situation any better.

                      
                        
 

                        

                          

                            
 

                              I would like to show you the example for
                              ALTO:

                              

                              From "ALTO:Lithium User Guide" (https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/ALTO:Lithium_User_Guide)

                              these are the instructions to install ALTO
                              :

                              

                              
To enable ALTO, the features must be
                                installed first. 

                              
 feature:install odl-alto-provider
 feature:install odl-alto-manager
 feature:install odl-alto-northbound
 feature:install odl-alto-hosttracker

                            

                          

                        

                        


                        

                      
                      
From what I can see Losif you are correct. 
                        The page you reference, and the documentation in
                        the Lithium User Guide (page 23) is incorrect. 
                        I believe the correct documentation for the
                        installation of ALTO is in the Lithium Getting
                        Started Guide (page 5) with the command
                        "feature:install odl-alto-all".  Richard Yang,
                        please confirm this.

                      


                      

                      
Denise, as you can see, our problem will
                        often be not that the correct documentation
                        isn't available, but that it is that it is lost
                        in a sea of incorrect information.

                      

                        

                          
 

                          

                            

                              
 From these 4 modules the first two
                                do not work :

                                

                                opendaylight-user@root>feature:install
                                odl-alto-provider

                                Error executing command: No feature
                                matching odl-alto-provider/0.0.0

                                opendaylight-user@root>feature:install
                                odl-alto-manager

                                Error executing command: No feature
                                matching odl-alto-manager/0.0.0

                                opendaylight-user@root>feature:install
                                odl-alto-northbound

                                opendaylight-user@root>feature:install
                                odl-alto-hosttracker

                                

                                If I list all the modules in karaf ,
                                these are the available modules for alto
                                :

                                

                                odl-alto-release                             
                                

                                odl-alto-core                                
                                

                                odl-alto-basic                               
                                

                                odl-alto-extension                           
                                

                                odl-alto-standard-types                      
                                

                                odl-alto-resourcepool                        
                                

                                odl-alto-northbound                          
                                

                                odl-alto-standard-service-model             
                                

                                odl-alto-standard-northbound-route          
                                

                                odl-alto-standard-resource-translator        
                                

                                odl-alto-ird                                
                                

                                odl-alto-manual-maps                      
                                

                                odl-alto-hosttracker                         
                                

                                odl-alto-nonstandard-types                  
                                

                                odl-alto-nonstandard-service-model           
                                

                                odl-alto-nonstandard-northbound-route        
                                

                                odl-messaging4transport-api                  
                                

                                odl-messaging4transport  

                                

                                There  are 18 ALTO modules . 

                              

                            

                          

                          


                          

                        

                      

                      
This will not be uncommon for modules within
                        OpenDaylight's Karaf distribution Losif.  Many
                        projects create various karaf bundles for their
                        own purposes in a finer granularity than is
                        significant to the end user.  We have "user
                        facing karaf features" that aggregate multiple
                        smaller bundles into a collection that is
                        exposed and documented to the end user.  I have
                        a feeling, in the beginning, the ALTO team
                        thought that the four user facing features made
                        sense, but at some point along the way changed
                        to just using "alto-all" to fully install the
                        full ALTO functionality.  Richard, feel free to
                        correct me or add additional insights.

                      
                        
 

                        

                          

                            
 

                              The documentation describes only the  ALTO
                              -manager but this 

                              modules does not exist anymore in the
                              distribution. 

                              All these new modules  are totally
                              undocumented. 

                              

                              After installing these new modules I tried
                              to only 

                              example on the documentation page using
                              the apidoc 

                              explorer and it does not seem to work. 

                              I also tried using curl on cli. 

                            

                          

                        

                        


                        

                      
                      
I would have expected that if you loaded all
                        the ALTO features, that was equivalent to
                        installing "alto-all".  Richard, can you or
                        someone from the ALTO project help Losif and his
                        team get ALTO up and running in their
                        environment?

                      
                        
 

                        

                          

                            
 

                              Changing the name of the modules and
                              adding many 

                              new undocumented modules for the same 

                              distribution ( Lithium) makes it really
                              difficult to use it .

                              

                              

                              

                              In my option, it will be very  useful  for
                              the users to have a set 

                              of simple / realistic examples in how to
                              use these modules. 

                            

                          

                        

                        


                        

                      
                      
Basic/simple examples would clearly help. 
                        Thanks for the suggstion Losif.  Denise, lets
                        see if we can get these as we do per-project
                        interviews in the coming weeks.

                      


                      

                      
Best,

                      


                      

                      
Phil.

                      

                        

                          
 

                          

                            

                              
 

                                

                                Thanks a lot for all your help.

                                

                                

                                Best Regards,

                                Iosif 

                                

                                  
 

                                    

                                    

                                    

                                    

                                    

                                    On 10/29/2015 02:22 AM, Phil Robb
                                    wrote:

                                  

                                

                              

                              

                                

                                  

                                    
Hello Everyone:
                                      


                                      

                                      
My apologies for missing this
                                        thread entirely until now.  It's
                                        totally my bad. 

                                      


                                      

                                      
I'd like to start with a
                                        level set so that I know where
                                        everyone is in getting up to
                                        speed.

                                      


                                      

                                      
First off, yes trying to
                                        search for documentation via
                                        google is particularly painful
                                        for OpenDaylight.  The Hydrogen
                                        release of the documentation was
                                        implemented on the wiki but for
                                        most of Helium and all of
                                        Lithium the user facing
                                        documentation has been compiled
                                        into PDF documents on the
                                        OpenDaylight.org site.  So the
                                        best curated documentation we
                                        have is in our pdf based
                                        documents on the
                                        OpenDaylight.org site and that
                                        isn't crawled by google (but the
                                        very stale wiki pages are).  Are
                                        you all familiar with the
                                        documents produced and available
                                        for download here?: https://www.opendaylight.org/downloads

                                      


                                      

                                      
Second, did anyone get the
                                        chance to attend the ODL Summit
                                        and take the day-long tutorial
                                        given by Ed Warnicke on "A Grand
                                        Tour Of Coding For
                                        OpenDaylight"?  For anyone that
                                        did not, it will be helpful to
                                        go through that material.  We
                                        have a wiki page that includes
                                        the 16 labs done in the tutorial
                                        along with the slides presented,
                                        the USB image that was
                                        distributed and used throughout
                                        the tutorial and youtube video
                                        recordings that comprise the
                                        day-long event.  At the Summit
                                        they only got through 13 of the
                                        16 tutorials so that is all
                                        you'll see on the recording. 
                                        I'm working with Ed to have him
                                        record the last 3 labs for
                                        completeness but that is not
                                        done yet.  If you watch this and
                                        have questions, please reach out
                                        to Ed on irc (he's a bit
                                        hit-or-miss via email).  Ed's
                                        irc handle is "edwarnicke"

                                      


                                      

                                      
Next, the best resource for
                                        each project is their individual
                                        project page on the wiki.  Each
                                        project is required to have one
                                        and keep it up to date.  Also on
                                        it is a project "Fact Box" that
                                        contains the contact information
                                        for the project lead and all
                                        committers as well as their
                                        mailing list, irc channel,
                                        meeting information etc.  In
                                        addition each page often
                                        contains pointers to their most
                                        recent wiki page documentation
                                        and any other relevant
                                        resources.  The full list is
                                        here: https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Project_list
                                        and the specific projects in
                                        question are here:

                                      
                                      
                                      
                                      
                                      
                                      
                                      


                                      

                                      
Also note, that if you are
                                        ever concerned that something
                                        might be out of date, just click
                                        on the "view history" tab at the
                                        top of the wiki page.  That will
                                        show you when the most recent
                                        changes were made giving you
                                        some level of confidence on the
                                        "freshness" of the material.

                                      


                                      

                                      
If you've not yet looked
                                        through the above material
                                        please do so and let me know if
                                        it helps.  The next step will be
                                        to reach out to the Project
                                        leads for each of the above
                                        either on the mailing lists or
                                        irc channels with your specific
                                        questions.  What the community
                                        lacks in documentation (and we
                                        know we lack in documentation)
                                        we make up for in timely
                                        responses to your questions...
                                        unless your request gets lost in
                                        my inbox... but I've already
                                        covered that above in this
                                        email... and again, sorry about
                                        that.

                                      


                                      

                                      
Best,

                                      


                                      

                                      
Phil.

                                      


                                      

                                      


                                      

                                      

                                        
On Thu,
                                          Sep 24, 2015 at 9:42 PM, Iosif
                                          Legrand <Iosif.Legrand@...>
                                          wrote:

                                          
Hello

                                            Melissa,

                                            

                                            

                                            Thank you very much for your
                                            email.

                                            

                                            I would  like to learn more
                                            about using Yang tools

                                            in the ODL framework to
                                            setup and control  flows .

                                            I saw many presentations
                                            describing the power and

                                            flexibility for this
                                            approach , but is  hard to
                                            find

                                            documentation and 
                                            simple/realistic examples in
                                            using it .

                                            

                                            I am also interested to
                                            learn using ALTO, LACP,
                                            Opflex, Intend .

                                            

                                            A significant part of the
                                            on-line documentation

                                            (using web search engines)
                                            or examples  is for Hydrogen
                                            or Helium

                                            releases and   is not
                                            updated for the Lithium
                                            version.

                                            In the doc wiki pages there
                                            are many broken links or
                                            links to

                                            old version for the
                                            documentation.

                                            

                                            I think that good
                                            documentation is very
                                            important for such a complex

                                            project.  I also believe
                                            that having  simple 
                                            examples in using

                                            ODL framework for realistic
                                            problems / configuration
                                            will help a

                                            lot the user community .

                                            

                                            

                                            Best Regards,

                                            ioji
                                            

                                              


                                                

                                                

                                                

                                                On 9/23/2015 7:06 PM,
                                                Melissa Logan wrote:

                                              

                                            

                                            

                                              

                                                
 Hi Losif,

                                                  

                                                  Thank you for that
                                                  feedback. The good
                                                  news is that we'll
                                                  soon have a

                                                  resource who will be
                                                  updating key
                                                  documentation, but it
                                                  may take some time

                                                  before you see the
                                                  results. Which
                                                  projects specifically
                                                  do you need help

                                                  with? We may be able
                                                  to find community
                                                  members who can help.

                                                  

                                                  Melissa

                                                  

                                                  On Wed, Sep 23, 2015
                                                  at 9:15 AM, Iosif
                                                  Legrand <Iosif.Legrand@...>

                                                  wrote:

                                                  

                                                

                                              

                                              

                                                

                                                  
 Hello ,

                                                    

                                                    I am trying to learn
                                                    it and use it in our
                                                    environment.

                                                    There are several
                                                    new interesting
                                                    projects / modules
                                                    in Lithium

                                                    but is no 
                                                    appropriate
                                                    documentation and
                                                    examples in how to
                                                    use them.

                                                    This is most
                                                    frustrating part .

                                                    

                                                    Regards,

                                                    Iosif

                                                    

                                                    

                                                    

                                                    On 09/23/2015 04:57
                                                    PM, Harvey Newman
                                                    wrote:

                                                    

                                                    Iosif is studying
                                                    Lithium and can
                                                    comment.

                                                    Harvey

                                                    

                                                    

                                                    On 9/23/2015 7:10
                                                    AM, Melissa Logan
                                                    wrote:

                                                    

                                                    OK great! We will be
                                                    in touch with the
                                                    materials for input.

                                                    

                                                    With regard to
                                                    Lithium, how is that
                                                    progressing for you?

                                                    On Sep 23, 2015 6:50
                                                    AM, "Harvey Newman"
                                                    <newman@...>

                                                    wrote:

                                                    

                                                  

                                                

                                                

                                                  

                                                    
   Dear
                                                      Melissa,

                                                      

                                                      I am open to this
                                                      and would be glad
                                                      to follow this up
                                                      with you.

                                                      

                                                      Regards

                                                      Harvey

                                                      

                                                      

                                                      

                                                      On 9/22/2015 8:50
                                                      PM, Melissa Logan
                                                      wrote:

                                                      

                                                      Hi Harvey, Julian
                                                      and Dorian!

                                                      

                                                      I hope you're all
                                                      doing well. Have
                                                      you found any dark
                                                      matter yet, or

                                                      hints of
                                                      supersymmetry?

                                                      

                                                      With regard to
                                                      SC15, we wondered
                                                      if you would you
                                                      have the ability
                                                      to

                                                      debut or show the
                                                      video we created
                                                      with you folks? We
                                                      thought that might
                                                      be

                                                      a perfect venue to
                                                      debut it (i.e. if
                                                      you have a TV in
                                                      your booth, or

                                                      perhaps during a
                                                      paper presentation
                                                      if that makes
                                                      sense?) while we
                                                      would

                                                      publish it on our
                                                      blog, social
                                                      media, newsletter
                                                      etc. What do you
                                                      think?

                                                      

                                                      We could even
                                                      perhaps schedule
                                                      interviews with a
                                                      couple HPC
                                                      reporters

                                                      (e.g. HPCwire,
                                                      ZDNet) who might
                                                      be interested in
                                                      hearing about your

                                                      experiences, as
                                                      well as ODL's
                                                      perspective. Would
                                                      you be open to
                                                      that? If so

                                                      we can get the
                                                      video finalized by
                                                      early October and
                                                      start reaching out
                                                      to

                                                      reporters around
                                                      mid to late
                                                      October to pitch.

                                                      

                                                      Melissa

                                                      

                                                      

                                                      On Fri, Aug 21,
                                                      2015 at 9:55 AM,
                                                      Jill Lovato <

                                                    

                                                  

                                                  <jlovato@...>jlovato@...>

                                                  wrote:

                                                  

                                                  

                                                    

                                                      
 Hi Harvey,

                                                        

                                                        That's great
                                                        news!  Please
                                                        keep us updated
                                                        on your
                                                        submission and
                                                        paper,

                                                        and feel free to
                                                        pass along both
                                                        the abstract you
                                                        submitted as
                                                        well as the

                                                        paper for
                                                        reference.

                                                        

                                                        We'd like to
                                                        release the CERN
                                                        video in tandem
                                                        with SC15. Your
                                                        presence

                                                        and presentation
                                                        at the event and
                                                        discussion of
                                                        OpenDaylight use
                                                        would be a

                                                        good compliment
                                                        to our
                                                        promotional
                                                        efforts
                                                        surrounding the
                                                        video. We may

                                                        also want to set
                                                        up some press
                                                        briefings at
                                                        that time. Let
                                                        us know if you

                                                        have any
                                                        concerns with
                                                        that approach,
                                                        otherwise we'll
                                                        move forward.

                                                        

                                                        As for
                                                        assistance with
                                                        the release and
                                                        the packages,
                                                        we'd love to
                                                        help.

                                                        Let us know what
                                                        you need and we
                                                        can put you in
                                                        touch with our
                                                        technical

                                                        director, Phil
                                                        Robb, and
                                                        perhaps some
                                                        other members of
                                                        the OpenDaylight

                                                        community, to
                                                        get that moving.

                                                        

                                                        Thanks,

                                                        Jill

                                                        

                                                        On Tue, Aug 11,
                                                        2015 at 11:54
                                                        PM, Harvey
                                                        Newman <newman@...>

                                                        wrote:

                                                        

                                                      

                                                    

                                                    

                                                      

                                                        
 Hi Jill
                                                          and Melissa,

                                                          

                                                          Indeed we are
                                                          preparing for
                                                          SC15 and part
                                                          of our plan is
                                                          to talk

                                                          about our
                                                          experiences
                                                          with
                                                          OpenDaylight.
                                                          Julian and
                                                          Dorian

                                                          just submitted
                                                          an abstract to
                                                          the INDIS
                                                          workshop on
                                                          our

                                                          SC14
                                                          experiences
                                                          and more
                                                          recent
                                                          progress, and
                                                          a paper is

                                                          (very shortly)
                                                          due.

                                                          

                                                          We will also
                                                          mention some
                                                          of the same
                                                          progress in
                                                          the ESnet

                                                          R&D
                                                          workshop
                                                          planned at
                                                          about the same
                                                          time.

                                                          

                                                          Best regards

                                                          Harvey

                                                          

                                                          PS Your
                                                          contact with
                                                          us also is
                                                          opportune in
                                                          that we would
                                                          like

                                                          to present a
                                                          strong case
                                                          for ODL
                                                          Lithium. For
                                                          that to happen

                                                          we would need
                                                          some
                                                          assistance
                                                          with the
                                                          release as it
                                                          continues

                                                          to evolve, and
                                                          for some of
                                                          the packages
                                                          to settle down
                                                          by October

                                                          or earlier. We
                                                          understand
                                                          that other
                                                          users have had
                                                          similar recent

                                                          experience.

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          On 8/12/2015
                                                          3:05 AM, Jill
                                                          Lovato wrote:

                                                          

                                                          Hi Julian and
                                                          Harvey,

                                                          

                                                          Hope you are
                                                          doing well! I
                                                          work with
                                                          Melissa Logan
                                                          on PR for

                                                          OpenDaylight,
                                                          and am
                                                          reaching out
                                                          regarding the
                                                          Supercomputing
                                                          2015

                                                          conference in
                                                          Austin
                                                          November
                                                          15-20: <http://sc15.supercomputing.org/>

                                                          http://sc15.supercomputing.org/

                                                          

                                                          We don't
                                                          currently have
                                                          plans to
                                                          participate in
                                                          the event, but
                                                          are

                                                          thinking it
                                                          might be
                                                          really
                                                          compelling to
                                                          the community
                                                          to talk about
                                                          how

                                                          Caltech is
                                                          using
                                                          OpenDaylight.
                                                          We're going to
                                                          get more
                                                          details on the
                                                          event

                                                          and various
                                                          presentation
                                                          options, but
                                                          wanted to
                                                          reach out now
                                                          to see if

                                                          this is
                                                          something
                                                          you'd be
                                                          interested in;
                                                          we'd love to
                                                          work with you
                                                          on

                                                          something!

                                                          

                                                          Looking
                                                          forward to
                                                          your thoughts
                                                          on this, and
                                                          we'll be in
                                                          touch again

                                                          when we have
                                                          more details.

                                                          

                                                          Thank you,

                                                          Jill

                                                          

                                                          

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Hello Jensen,

      

      

      Thank you very much for your email. 

      

      Azher from our group ( in cc ) installed the ODL , and as far as
      know 

      from him, he installed the pre-built Lithium - SR2.

      Azher , please send Jensen the command line history from our 
      installation. 

      

      With Best Regards,

      Iosif 

      

      

      

      

      On 10/31/2015 08:04 AM, Jensen Zhang wrote:

    

    

        
          
          

          

            

      
      

        

          
Hi Losif,

            

          

          Thanks for your feedback.

          

          "ALTO:Lithium User Guide" (https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/ALTO:Lithium_User_Guide)
            assumes that you are using OpenDaylight Lithium Release.
          But It seems that you are not using the Lithium Release. These
          modules you list in karaf are in our master branch, so the
          Lithium User Guide is not fit for them.

          

        

        
However, I am not sure how you install your OpenDaylight.
          May I get your command-line history or some logs so that we
          can help you better?

          

        

        
BTW. I think you can get the pre-built version of ODL
          Lithium-SR2 from this link (https://www.opendaylight.org/downloads).

        

        


        

        
Regards,

        

        

          

            

              

                

                  

                    

                      
Jensen

                      

                    

                  

                

              

            

          

          

          
2015-10-31 7:29 GMT+08:00 Harvey
            Newman <newman@...>:

            

              
 Much appreciated
                Phil and All.

                

                As you can see we have some very specific questions,

                and an issue of documentation as well.

                

                Thanks for following this through with Iosif

                

                 (and the other team members cited).

                

                Best regards

                Harvey
                

                  


                    

                    

                    
On 10/30/2015 4:22 PM, Phil Robb wrote:

                    

                  

                

                

                  

                    

                      
Hello Kai & Jensen:
                        


                        

                        
I sent this to Richard yesterday not
                          realizing that the leadership of the project
                          has changed this past week.

                        


                        

                        
The folks at CalTech woking on the Large
                          Hadron Collider are using OpenDaylight to
                          distribute the data they collect to a network
                          of participating universities and they're
                          interested in using ALTO as part of that
                          effort.

                        


                        

                        
However, they are having some issues in
                          getting everything stood up.  Could you guys
                          take a look at the email below and respond to
                          Losif Legrand and team with any insights you
                          may have?

                        


                        

                        
Thanks in advance for your help with this.

                        


                        

                        
Phil.

                        


                          
On Fri, Oct 30, 2015
                            at 9:45 AM, Phil Robb <probb@...>
                            wrote:

                            

                              
Hi Losif:
                                


                                

                                
Thanks for your detailed email
                                  regarding ALTO.  It sounds like you've
                                  got more of these regarding other ODL
                                  projects but let's take them one at a
                                  time.

                                


                                

                                
I've cc-ed the lead of the docs
                                  team (Colin Dixon), a Tech-Writer we
                                  have on contract to help us with our
                                  documentation (Denise [Walters] Boehm)
                                  and the Project Lead for the ALTO
                                  project (Richard Yang).  Richard
                                  should be able to help us with getting
                                  you sorted out regarding the ALTO
                                  implementation in OpenDaylight-Lithium
                                  and Denise and Colin can take what we
                                  learn here to improve the
                                  documentation in the future.

                                


                                

                                
Further comments inline below...

                                  


                                    
On
                                        Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 3:38 AM,
                                        Iosif Legrand <Iosif.Legrand@...>
                                        wrote:

                                        

                                          

                                            
Hello Phil,

                                              

                                              

                                              Thank you very much for
                                              your email and the links
                                              to the documentation. 

                                              

                                              Unfortunately there are
                                              significant  discrepancy
                                              between  documentation and
                                              

                                              and the distribution
                                              (Lithium)  we are trying
                                              to use .

                                            

                                          

                                        

                                        


                                        

                                      
                                      
Actually, the problem you are
                                        running into is not due to stale
                                        documentation from a previous
                                        release.  Lithium is the first
                                        release that contained ALTO....
                                        not that it makes the situation
                                        any better.

                                      
                                        
 

                                        

                                          

                                            
 

                                              I would like to show you
                                              the example for ALTO:

                                              

                                              From "ALTO:Lithium User
                                              Guide" (https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/ALTO:Lithium_User_Guide)

                                              these are the instructions
                                              to install ALTO :

                                              

                                              
To enable ALTO, the
                                                features must be
                                                installed first. 

                                              
 feature:install odl-alto-provider
 feature:install odl-alto-manager
 feature:install odl-alto-northbound
 feature:install odl-alto-hosttracker

                                            

                                          

                                        

                                        


                                        

                                      
                                      
From what I can see Losif you
                                        are correct.  The page you
                                        reference, and the documentation
                                        in the Lithium User Guide (page
                                        23) is incorrect.  I believe the
                                        correct documentation for the
                                        installation of ALTO is in the
                                        Lithium Getting Started Guide
                                        (page 5) with the command
                                        "feature:install odl-alto-all". 
                                        Richard Yang, please confirm
                                        this.

                                      


                                      

                                      
Denise, as you can see, our
                                        problem will often be not that
                                        the correct documentation isn't
                                        available, but that it is that
                                        it is lost in a sea of incorrect
                                        information.

                                      

                                        

                                          
 

                                          

                                            

                                              
 From these 4 modules
                                                the first two do not
                                                work :

                                                

                                                opendaylight-user@root>feature:install

                                                odl-alto-provider

                                                Error executing command:
                                                No feature matching
                                                odl-alto-provider/0.0.0

                                                opendaylight-user@root>feature:install

                                                odl-alto-manager

                                                Error executing command:
                                                No feature matching
                                                odl-alto-manager/0.0.0

                                                opendaylight-user@root>feature:install

                                                odl-alto-northbound

                                                opendaylight-user@root>feature:install

                                                odl-alto-hosttracker

                                                

                                                If I list all the
                                                modules in karaf , these
                                                are the available
                                                modules for alto :

                                                

                                                odl-alto-release                             

                                                

                                                odl-alto-core                                

                                                

                                                odl-alto-basic                               

                                                

                                                odl-alto-extension                           

                                                

                                                odl-alto-standard-types                      

                                                

                                                odl-alto-resourcepool                        

                                                

                                                odl-alto-northbound                          

                                                

                                                odl-alto-standard-service-model             

                                                

                                                odl-alto-standard-northbound-route          

                                                

                                                odl-alto-standard-resource-translator        

                                                

                                                odl-alto-ird                                

                                                

                                                odl-alto-manual-maps                      

                                                

                                                odl-alto-hosttracker                         

                                                

                                                odl-alto-nonstandard-types                  

                                                

                                                odl-alto-nonstandard-service-model           

                                                

                                                odl-alto-nonstandard-northbound-route        

                                                

                                                odl-messaging4transport-api                  

                                                

                                                odl-messaging4transport 
                                                

                                                

                                                There  are 18 ALTO
                                                modules . 

                                              

                                            

                                          

                                          


                                          

                                        

                                      

                                      
This will not be uncommon for
                                        modules within OpenDaylight's
                                        Karaf distribution Losif.  Many
                                        projects create various karaf
                                        bundles for their own purposes
                                        in a finer granularity than is
                                        significant to the end user.  We
                                        have "user facing karaf
                                        features" that aggregate
                                        multiple smaller bundles into a
                                        collection that is exposed and
                                        documented to the end user.  I
                                        have a feeling, in the
                                        beginning, the ALTO team thought
                                        that the four user facing
                                        features made sense, but at some
                                        point along the way changed to
                                        just using "alto-all" to fully
                                        install the full ALTO
                                        functionality.  Richard, feel
                                        free to correct me or add
                                        additional insights.

                                      
                                        
 

                                        

                                          

                                            
 

                                              The documentation
                                              describes only the  ALTO
                                              -manager but this 

                                              modules does not exist
                                              anymore in the
                                              distribution. 

                                              All these new modules  are
                                              totally undocumented. 

                                              

                                              After installing these new
                                              modules I tried to only 

                                              example on the
                                              documentation page using
                                              the apidoc 

                                              explorer and it does not
                                              seem to work. 

                                              I also tried using curl on
                                              cli. 

                                            

                                          

                                        

                                        


                                        

                                      
                                      
I would have expected that if
                                        you loaded all the ALTO
                                        features, that was equivalent to
                                        installing "alto-all".  Richard,
                                        can you or someone from the ALTO
                                        project help Losif and his team
                                        get ALTO up and running in their
                                        environment?

                                      
                                        
 

                                        

                                          

                                            
 

                                              Changing the name of the
                                              modules and adding many 

                                              new undocumented modules
                                              for the same 

                                              distribution ( Lithium)
                                              makes it really difficult
                                              to use it .

                                              

                                              

                                              

                                              In my option, it will be
                                              very  useful  for the
                                              users to have a set 

                                              of simple / realistic
                                              examples in how to use
                                              these modules. 

                                            

                                          

                                        

                                        


                                        

                                      
                                      
Basic/simple examples would
                                        clearly help.  Thanks for the
                                        suggstion Losif.  Denise, lets
                                        see if we can get these as we do
                                        per-project interviews in the
                                        coming weeks.

                                      


                                      

                                      
Best,

                                      


                                      

                                      
Phil.

                                      

                                        

                                          
 

                                          

                                            

                                              
 

                                                

                                                Thanks a lot for all
                                                your help.

                                                

                                                

                                                Best Regards,

                                                Iosif 

                                                

                                                  
 

                                                    

                                                    

                                                    

                                                    

                                                    

                                                    On 10/29/2015 02:22
                                                    AM, Phil Robb wrote:

                                                  

                                                

                                              

                                              

                                                

                                                  

                                                    
Hello
                                                      Everyone:
                                                      


                                                      

                                                      
My apologies
                                                        for missing this
                                                        thread entirely
                                                        until now.  It's
                                                        totally my bad. 

                                                      


                                                      

                                                      
I'd like to
                                                        start with a
                                                        level set so
                                                        that I know
                                                        where everyone
                                                        is in getting up
                                                        to speed.

                                                      


                                                      

                                                      
First off,
                                                        yes trying to
                                                        search for
                                                        documentation
                                                        via google is
                                                        particularly
                                                        painful for
                                                        OpenDaylight. 
                                                        The Hydrogen
                                                        release of the
                                                        documentation
                                                        was implemented
                                                        on the wiki but
                                                        for most of
                                                        Helium and all
                                                        of Lithium the
                                                        user facing
                                                        documentation
                                                        has been
                                                        compiled into
                                                        PDF documents on
                                                        the
                                                        OpenDaylight.org
                                                        site.  So the
                                                        best curated
                                                        documentation we
                                                        have is in our
                                                        pdf based
                                                        documents on the
                                                        OpenDaylight.org
                                                        site and that
                                                        isn't crawled by
                                                        google (but the
                                                        very stale wiki
                                                        pages are).  Are
                                                        you all familiar
                                                        with the
                                                        documents
                                                        produced and
                                                        available for
                                                        download here?: https://www.opendaylight.org/downloads

                                                      


                                                      

                                                      
Second, did
                                                        anyone get the
                                                        chance to attend
                                                        the ODL Summit
                                                        and take the
                                                        day-long
                                                        tutorial given
                                                        by Ed Warnicke
                                                        on "A Grand Tour
                                                        Of Coding For
                                                        OpenDaylight"? 
                                                        For anyone that
                                                        did not, it will
                                                        be helpful to go
                                                        through that
                                                        material.  We
                                                        have a wiki page
                                                        that includes
                                                        the 16 labs done
                                                        in the tutorial
                                                        along with the
                                                        slides
                                                        presented, the
                                                        USB image that
                                                        was distributed
                                                        and used
                                                        throughout the
                                                        tutorial and
                                                        youtube video
                                                        recordings that
                                                        comprise the
                                                        day-long event. 
                                                        At the Summit
                                                        they only got
                                                        through 13 of
                                                        the 16 tutorials
                                                        so that is all
                                                        you'll see on
                                                        the recording. 
                                                        I'm working with
                                                        Ed to have him
                                                        record the last
                                                        3 labs for
                                                        completeness but
                                                        that is not done
                                                        yet.  If you
                                                        watch this and
                                                        have questions,
                                                        please reach out
                                                        to Ed on irc
                                                        (he's a bit
                                                        hit-or-miss via
                                                        email).  Ed's
                                                        irc handle is
                                                        "edwarnicke"

                                                      


                                                      

                                                      
Next, the
                                                        best resource
                                                        for each project
                                                        is their
                                                        individual
                                                        project page on
                                                        the wiki.  Each
                                                        project is
                                                        required to have
                                                        one and keep it
                                                        up to date. 
                                                        Also on it is a
                                                        project "Fact
                                                        Box" that
                                                        contains the
                                                        contact
                                                        information for
                                                        the project lead
                                                        and all
                                                        committers as
                                                        well as their
                                                        mailing list,
                                                        irc channel,
                                                        meeting
                                                        information
                                                        etc.  In
                                                        addition each
                                                        page often
                                                        contains
                                                        pointers to
                                                        their most
                                                        recent wiki page
                                                        documentation
                                                        and any other
                                                        relevant
                                                        resources.  The
                                                        full list is
                                                        here: https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Project_list
                                                        and the specific
                                                        projects in
                                                        question are
                                                        here:

                                                      
                                                      
                                                      
                                                      
                                                      
                                                      
                                                      


                                                      

                                                      
Also note,
                                                        that if you are
                                                        ever concerned
                                                        that something
                                                        might be out of
                                                        date, just click
                                                        on the "view
                                                        history" tab at
                                                        the top of the
                                                        wiki page.  That
                                                        will show you
                                                        when the most
                                                        recent changes
                                                        were made giving
                                                        you some level
                                                        of confidence on
                                                        the "freshness"
                                                        of the material.

                                                      


                                                      

                                                      
If you've not
                                                        yet looked
                                                        through the
                                                        above material
                                                        please do so and
                                                        let me know if
                                                        it helps.  The
                                                        next step will
                                                        be to reach out
                                                        to the Project
                                                        leads for each
                                                        of the above
                                                        either on the
                                                        mailing lists or
                                                        irc channels
                                                        with your
                                                        specific
                                                        questions.  What
                                                        the community
                                                        lacks in
                                                        documentation
                                                        (and we know we
                                                        lack in
                                                        documentation)
                                                        we make up for
                                                        in timely
                                                        responses to
                                                        your
                                                        questions...
                                                        unless your
                                                        request gets
                                                        lost in my
                                                        inbox... but
                                                        I've already
                                                        covered that
                                                        above in this
                                                        email... and
                                                        again, sorry
                                                        about that.

                                                      


                                                      

                                                      
Best,

                                                      


                                                      

                                                      
Phil.

                                                      


                                                      

                                                      


                                                      

                                                      

                                                        
On
                                                          Thu, Sep 24,
                                                          2015 at 9:42
                                                          PM, Iosif
                                                          Legrand <Iosif.Legrand@...>
                                                          wrote:

                                                          
Hello


                                                          Melissa,

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          Thank you very
                                                          much for your
                                                          email.

                                                          

                                                          I would  like
                                                          to learn more
                                                          about using
                                                          Yang tools

                                                          in the ODL
                                                          framework to
                                                          setup and
                                                          control  flows
                                                          .

                                                          I saw many
                                                          presentations
                                                          describing the
                                                          power and

                                                          flexibility
                                                          for this
                                                          approach , but
                                                          is  hard to
                                                          find

                                                          documentation
                                                          and 
                                                          simple/realistic
                                                          examples in
                                                          using it .

                                                          

                                                          I am also
                                                          interested to
                                                          learn using
                                                          ALTO, LACP,
                                                          Opflex, Intend
                                                          .

                                                          

                                                          A significant
                                                          part of the
                                                          on-line
                                                          documentation

                                                          (using web
                                                          search
                                                          engines) or
                                                          examples  is
                                                          for Hydrogen
                                                          or Helium

                                                          releases and 
                                                           is not
                                                          updated for
                                                          the Lithium
                                                          version.

                                                          In the doc
                                                          wiki pages
                                                          there are many
                                                          broken links
                                                          or links to

                                                          old version
                                                          for the
                                                          documentation.

                                                          

                                                          I think that
                                                          good
                                                          documentation
                                                          is very
                                                          important for
                                                          such a complex

                                                          project.  I
                                                          also believe
                                                          that having 
                                                          simple 
                                                          examples in
                                                          using

                                                          ODL framework
                                                          for realistic
                                                          problems /
                                                          configuration
                                                          will help a

                                                          lot the user
                                                          community .

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          Best Regards,

                                                          ioji
                                                          

                                                          


                                                          

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          On 9/23/2015
                                                          7:06 PM,
                                                          Melissa Logan
                                                          wrote:

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          
 Hi
                                                          Losif,

                                                          

                                                          Thank you for
                                                          that feedback.
                                                          The good news
                                                          is that we'll
                                                          soon have a

                                                          resource who
                                                          will be
                                                          updating key
                                                          documentation,
                                                          but it may
                                                          take some time

                                                          before you see
                                                          the results.
                                                          Which projects
                                                          specifically
                                                          do you need
                                                          help

                                                          with? We may
                                                          be able to
                                                          find community
                                                          members who
                                                          can help.

                                                          

                                                          Melissa

                                                          

                                                          On Wed, Sep
                                                          23, 2015 at
                                                          9:15 AM, Iosif
                                                          Legrand <Iosif.Legrand@...>

                                                          wrote:

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          
 Hello ,

                                                          

                                                          I am trying to
                                                          learn it and
                                                          use it in our
                                                          environment.

                                                          There are
                                                          several new
                                                          interesting
                                                          projects /
                                                          modules in
                                                          Lithium

                                                          but is no 
                                                          appropriate
                                                          documentation
                                                          and examples
                                                          in how to use
                                                          them.

                                                          This is most
                                                          frustrating
                                                          part .

                                                          

                                                          Regards,

                                                          Iosif

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          On 09/23/2015
                                                          04:57 PM,
                                                          Harvey Newman
                                                          wrote:

                                                          

                                                          Iosif is
                                                          studying
                                                          Lithium and
                                                          can comment.

                                                          Harvey

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          On 9/23/2015
                                                          7:10 AM,
                                                          Melissa Logan
                                                          wrote:

                                                          

                                                          OK great! We
                                                          will be in
                                                          touch with the
                                                          materials for
                                                          input.

                                                          

                                                          With regard to
                                                          Lithium, how
                                                          is that
                                                          progressing
                                                          for you?

                                                          On Sep 23,
                                                          2015 6:50 AM,
                                                          "Harvey
                                                          Newman" <newman@...>


                                                          wrote:

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          
   Dear
                                                          Melissa,

                                                          

                                                          I am open to
                                                          this and would
                                                          be glad to
                                                          follow this up
                                                          with you.

                                                          

                                                          Regards

                                                          Harvey

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          On 9/22/2015
                                                          8:50 PM,
                                                          Melissa Logan
                                                          wrote:

                                                          

                                                          Hi Harvey,
                                                          Julian and
                                                          Dorian!

                                                          

                                                          I hope you're
                                                          all doing
                                                          well. Have you
                                                          found any dark
                                                          matter yet, or

                                                          hints of
                                                          supersymmetry?

                                                          

                                                          With regard to
                                                          SC15, we
                                                          wondered if
                                                          you would you
                                                          have the
                                                          ability to

                                                          debut or show
                                                          the video we
                                                          created with
                                                          you folks? We
                                                          thought that
                                                          might be

                                                          a perfect
                                                          venue to debut
                                                          it (i.e. if
                                                          you have a TV
                                                          in your booth,
                                                          or

                                                          perhaps during
                                                          a paper
                                                          presentation
                                                          if that makes
                                                          sense?) while
                                                          we would

                                                          publish it on
                                                          our blog,
                                                          social media,
                                                          newsletter
                                                          etc. What do
                                                          you think?

                                                          

                                                          We could even
                                                          perhaps
                                                          schedule
                                                          interviews
                                                          with a couple
                                                          HPC reporters

                                                          (e.g. HPCwire,
                                                          ZDNet) who
                                                          might be
                                                          interested in
                                                          hearing about
                                                          your

                                                          experiences,
                                                          as well as
                                                          ODL's
                                                          perspective.
                                                          Would you be
                                                          open to that?
                                                          If so

                                                          we can get the
                                                          video
                                                          finalized by
                                                          early October
                                                          and start
                                                          reaching out
                                                          to

                                                          reporters
                                                          around mid to
                                                          late October
                                                          to pitch.

                                                          

                                                          Melissa

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          On Fri, Aug
                                                          21, 2015 at
                                                          9:55 AM, Jill
                                                          Lovato <

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          <jlovato@...>jlovato@...>


                                                          wrote:

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          
 Hi
                                                          Harvey,

                                                          

                                                          That's great
                                                          news!  Please
                                                          keep us
                                                          updated on
                                                          your
                                                          submission and
                                                          paper,

                                                          and feel free
                                                          to pass along
                                                          both the
                                                          abstract you
                                                          submitted as
                                                          well as the

                                                          paper for
                                                          reference.

                                                          

                                                          We'd like to
                                                          release the
                                                          CERN video in
                                                          tandem with
                                                          SC15. Your
                                                          presence

                                                          and
                                                          presentation
                                                          at the event
                                                          and discussion
                                                          of
                                                          OpenDaylight
                                                          use would be a

                                                          good
                                                          compliment to
                                                          our
                                                          promotional
                                                          efforts
                                                          surrounding
                                                          the video. We
                                                          may

                                                          also want to
                                                          set up some
                                                          press
                                                          briefings at
                                                          that time. Let
                                                          us know if you

                                                          have any
                                                          concerns with
                                                          that approach,
                                                          otherwise
                                                          we'll move
                                                          forward.

                                                          

                                                          As for
                                                          assistance
                                                          with the
                                                          release and
                                                          the packages,
                                                          we'd love to
                                                          help.

                                                          Let us know
                                                          what you need
                                                          and we can put
                                                          you in touch
                                                          with our
                                                          technical

                                                          director, Phil
                                                          Robb, and
                                                          perhaps some
                                                          other members
                                                          of the
                                                          OpenDaylight

                                                          community, to
                                                          get that
                                                          moving.

                                                          

                                                          Thanks,

                                                          Jill

                                                          

                                                          On Tue, Aug
                                                          11, 2015 at
                                                          11:54 PM,
                                                          Harvey Newman
                                                          <newman@...>

                                                          wrote:

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          
 Hi Jill
                                                          and Melissa,

                                                          

                                                          Indeed we are
                                                          preparing for
                                                          SC15 and part
                                                          of our plan is
                                                          to talk

                                                          about our
                                                          experiences
                                                          with
                                                          OpenDaylight.
                                                          Julian and
                                                          Dorian

                                                          just submitted
                                                          an abstract to
                                                          the INDIS
                                                          workshop on
                                                          our

                                                          SC14
                                                          experiences
                                                          and more
                                                          recent
                                                          progress, and
                                                          a paper is

                                                          (very shortly)
                                                          due.

                                                          

                                                          We will also
                                                          mention some
                                                          of the same
                                                          progress in
                                                          the ESnet

                                                          R&D
                                                          workshop
                                                          planned at
                                                          about the same
                                                          time.

                                                          

                                                          Best regards

                                                          Harvey

                                                          

                                                          PS Your
                                                          contact with
                                                          us also is
                                                          opportune in
                                                          that we would
                                                          like

                                                          to present a
                                                          strong case
                                                          for ODL
                                                          Lithium. For
                                                          that to happen

                                                          we would need
                                                          some
                                                          assistance
                                                          with the
                                                          release as it
                                                          continues

                                                          to evolve, and
                                                          for some of
                                                          the packages
                                                          to settle down
                                                          by October

                                                          or earlier. We
                                                          understand
                                                          that other
                                                          users have had
                                                          similar recent

                                                          experience.

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          On 8/12/2015
                                                          3:05 AM, Jill
                                                          Lovato wrote:

                                                          

                                                          Hi Julian and
                                                          Harvey,

                                                          

                                                          Hope you are
                                                          doing well! I
                                                          work with
                                                          Melissa Logan
                                                          on PR for

                                                          OpenDaylight,
                                                          and am
                                                          reaching out
                                                          regarding the
                                                          Supercomputing
                                                          2015

                                                          conference in
                                                          Austin
                                                          November
                                                          15-20: <http://sc15.supercomputing.org/>

                                                          http://sc15.supercomputing.org/

                                                          

                                                          We don't
                                                          currently have
                                                          plans to
                                                          participate in
                                                          the event, but
                                                          are

                                                          thinking it
                                                          might be
                                                          really
                                                          compelling to
                                                          the community
                                                          to talk about
                                                          how

                                                          Caltech is
                                                          using
                                                          OpenDaylight.
                                                          We're going to
                                                          get more
                                                          details on the
                                                          event

                                                          and various
                                                          presentation
                                                          options, but
                                                          wanted to
                                                          reach out now
                                                          to see if

                                                          this is
                                                          something
                                                          you'd be
                                                          interested in;
                                                          we'd love to
                                                          work with you
                                                          on

                                                          something!

                                                          

                                                          Looking
                                                          forward to
                                                          your thoughts
                                                          on this, and
                                                          we'll be in
                                                          touch again

                                                          when we have
                                                          more details.

                                                          

                                                          Thank you,

                                                          Jill

                                                          

                                                          

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                                                          PR Manager

                                                          The Linux
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    We recently moved from Lithium 0.3.2 snapshot to Lithium 0.4.0
    snapshot. I added features in order at line 60, while rest by Iosif.

    

    > history

    

       60  feature:install odl-restconf odl-l2switch-switch
    odl-openflowplugin-all odl-mdsal-apidocs odl-dlux-all
    odl-adsal-northbound

       61  features:install -l 

       62  help

       63                         feature:install -l

       64  feature:install -l

       65  feature:install odl-alto-provider

       66  feature:install odl-alto-manager

       67  feature:list

       68  feature:install odl-alto-core 

       69  feature:install odl-alto-manager

       70  feature:install odl-alto-provider

       71  feature:install odl-alto-manager

       72  feature:install odl-alto-northbound

       73  feature:install odl-alto-hosttracker

       74  history 

    

    -Azher

    

    
On 10/31/2015 1:25 AM, Iosif Legrand
      wrote:

    

    

        
          
          

          

            

      
      
Hello Jensen,

        

        

        Thank you very much for your email. 

        

        Azher from our group ( in cc ) installed the ODL , and as far as
        know 

        from him, he installed the pre-built Lithium - SR2.

        Azher , please send Jensen the command line history from our 
        installation. 

        

        With Best Regards,

        Iosif 

        

        

        

        

        On 10/31/2015 08:04 AM, Jensen Zhang wrote:

      

      

        
        

          

            
Hi Losif,

              

            

            Thanks for your feedback.

            

            "ALTO:Lithium User Guide" (https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/ALTO:Lithium_User_Guide)
              assumes that you are using OpenDaylight Lithium Release.
            But It seems that you are not using the Lithium Release.
            These modules you list in karaf are in our master branch, so
            the Lithium User Guide is not fit for them.

            

          

          
However, I am not sure how you install your OpenDaylight.
            May I get your command-line history or some logs so that we
            can help you better?

            

          

          
BTW. I think you can get the pre-built version of ODL
            Lithium-SR2 from this link (https://www.opendaylight.org/downloads).

          

          


          

          
Regards,

          

          

            

              

                

                  

                    

                      

                        
Jensen

                        

                      

                    

                  

                

              

            

            

            
2015-10-31 7:29 GMT+08:00 Harvey
              Newman <newman@...>:

              

                
 Much appreciated
                  Phil and All.

                  

                  As you can see we have some very specific questions,

                  and an issue of documentation as well.

                  

                  Thanks for following this through with Iosif

                  

                   (and the other team members cited).

                  

                  Best regards

                  Harvey
                  

                    


                      

                      

                      
On 10/30/2015 4:22 PM, Phil Robb wrote:

                      

                    

                  

                  

                    

                      

                        
Hello Kai & Jensen:
                          


                          

                          
I sent this to Richard yesterday not
                            realizing that the leadership of the project
                            has changed this past week.

                          


                          

                          
The folks at CalTech woking on the Large
                            Hadron Collider are using OpenDaylight to
                            distribute the data they collect to a
                            network of participating universities and
                            they're interested in using ALTO as part of
                            that effort.

                          


                          

                          
However, they are having some issues in
                            getting everything stood up.  Could you guys
                            take a look at the email below and respond
                            to Losif Legrand and team with any insights
                            you may have?

                          


                          

                          
Thanks in advance for your help with
                            this.

                          


                          

                          
Phil.

                          


                            
On Fri, Oct 30,
                              2015 at 9:45 AM, Phil Robb <probb@...>
                              wrote:

                              

                                
Hi Losif:
                                  


                                  

                                  
Thanks for your detailed email
                                    regarding ALTO.  It sounds like
                                    you've got more of these regarding
                                    other ODL projects but let's take
                                    them one at a time.

                                  


                                  

                                  
I've cc-ed the lead of the docs
                                    team (Colin Dixon), a Tech-Writer we
                                    have on contract to help us with our
                                    documentation (Denise [Walters]
                                    Boehm) and the Project Lead for the
                                    ALTO project (Richard Yang). 
                                    Richard should be able to help us
                                    with getting you sorted out
                                    regarding the ALTO implementation in
                                    OpenDaylight-Lithium and Denise and
                                    Colin can take what we learn here to
                                    improve the documentation in the
                                    future.

                                  


                                  

                                  
Further comments inline below...

                                    


                                      
On
                                          Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 3:38 AM,
                                          Iosif Legrand <Iosif.Legrand@...>
                                          wrote:

                                          

                                            

                                              
Hello Phil,

                                                

                                                

                                                Thank you very much for
                                                your email and the links
                                                to the documentation. 

                                                

                                                Unfortunately there are
                                                significant  discrepancy
                                                between  documentation
                                                and 

                                                and the distribution
                                                (Lithium)  we are trying
                                                to use .

                                              

                                            

                                          

                                          


                                          

                                        
                                        
Actually, the problem you
                                          are running into is not due to
                                          stale documentation from a
                                          previous release.  Lithium is
                                          the first release that
                                          contained ALTO.... not that it
                                          makes the situation any
                                          better.

                                        
                                          
 

                                          

                                            

                                              
 

                                                I would like to show you
                                                the example for ALTO:

                                                

                                                From "ALTO:Lithium User
                                                Guide" (https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/ALTO:Lithium_User_Guide)

                                                these are the
                                                instructions to install
                                                ALTO :

                                                

                                                
To enable ALTO, the
                                                  features must be
                                                  installed first. 

                                                
 feature:install odl-alto-provider
 feature:install odl-alto-manager
 feature:install odl-alto-northbound
 feature:install odl-alto-hosttracker

                                              

                                            

                                          

                                          


                                          

                                        
                                        
From what I can see Losif
                                          you are correct.  The page you
                                          reference, and the
                                          documentation in the Lithium
                                          User Guide (page 23) is
                                          incorrect.  I believe the
                                          correct documentation for the
                                          installation of ALTO is in the
                                          Lithium Getting Started Guide
                                          (page 5) with the command
                                          "feature:install
                                          odl-alto-all".  Richard Yang,
                                          please confirm this.

                                        


                                        

                                        
Denise, as you can see, our
                                          problem will often be not that
                                          the correct documentation
                                          isn't available, but that it
                                          is that it is lost in a sea of
                                          incorrect information.

                                        

                                          

                                            
 

                                            

                                              

                                                
 From these 4
                                                  modules the first two
                                                  do not work :

                                                  

                                                  opendaylight-user@root>feature:install


                                                  odl-alto-provider

                                                  Error executing
                                                  command: No feature
                                                  matching
                                                  odl-alto-provider/0.0.0

                                                  opendaylight-user@root>feature:install


                                                  odl-alto-manager

                                                  Error executing
                                                  command: No feature
                                                  matching
                                                  odl-alto-manager/0.0.0

                                                  opendaylight-user@root>feature:install


                                                  odl-alto-northbound

                                                  opendaylight-user@root>feature:install


                                                  odl-alto-hosttracker

                                                  

                                                  If I list all the
                                                  modules in karaf ,
                                                  these are the
                                                  available modules for
                                                  alto :

                                                  

                                                  odl-alto-release                             


                                                  

                                                  odl-alto-core                                


                                                  

                                                  odl-alto-basic                               


                                                  

                                                  odl-alto-extension                           


                                                  

                                                  odl-alto-standard-types                      


                                                  

                                                  odl-alto-resourcepool                        


                                                  

                                                  odl-alto-northbound                          


                                                  

                                                  odl-alto-standard-service-model             


                                                  

                                                  odl-alto-standard-northbound-route          


                                                  

                                                  odl-alto-standard-resource-translator        


                                                  

                                                  odl-alto-ird                                


                                                  

                                                  odl-alto-manual-maps                      


                                                  

                                                  odl-alto-hosttracker                         


                                                  

                                                  odl-alto-nonstandard-types                  


                                                  

                                                  odl-alto-nonstandard-service-model           


                                                  

                                                  odl-alto-nonstandard-northbound-route        


                                                  

                                                  odl-messaging4transport-api                  


                                                  

                                                  odl-messaging4transport 

                                                  

                                                  

                                                  There  are 18 ALTO
                                                  modules . 

                                                

                                              

                                            

                                            


                                            

                                          

                                        

                                        
This will not be uncommon
                                          for modules within
                                          OpenDaylight's Karaf
                                          distribution Losif.  Many
                                          projects create various karaf
                                          bundles for their own purposes
                                          in a finer granularity than is
                                          significant to the end user. 
                                          We have "user facing karaf
                                          features" that aggregate
                                          multiple smaller bundles into
                                          a collection that is exposed
                                          and documented to the end
                                          user.  I have a feeling, in
                                          the beginning, the ALTO team
                                          thought that the four user
                                          facing features made sense,
                                          but at some point along the
                                          way changed to just using
                                          "alto-all" to fully install
                                          the full ALTO functionality. 
                                          Richard, feel free to correct
                                          me or add additional insights.

                                        
                                          
 

                                          

                                            

                                              
 

                                                The documentation
                                                describes only the  ALTO
                                                -manager but this 

                                                modules does not exist
                                                anymore in the
                                                distribution. 

                                                All these new modules 
                                                are totally
                                                undocumented. 

                                                

                                                After installing these
                                                new modules I tried to
                                                only 

                                                example on the
                                                documentation page using
                                                the apidoc 

                                                explorer and it does not
                                                seem to work. 

                                                I also tried using curl
                                                on cli. 

                                              

                                            

                                          

                                          


                                          

                                        
                                        
I would have expected that
                                          if you loaded all the ALTO
                                          features, that was equivalent
                                          to installing "alto-all". 
                                          Richard, can you or someone
                                          from the ALTO project help
                                          Losif and his team get ALTO up
                                          and running in their
                                          environment?

                                        
                                          
 

                                          

                                            

                                              
 

                                                Changing the name of the
                                                modules and adding many
                                                

                                                new undocumented modules
                                                for the same 

                                                distribution ( Lithium)
                                                makes it really
                                                difficult to use it .

                                                

                                                

                                                

                                                In my option, it will be
                                                very  useful  for the
                                                users to have a set 

                                                of simple / realistic
                                                examples in how to use
                                                these modules. 

                                              

                                            

                                          

                                          


                                          

                                        
                                        
Basic/simple examples would
                                          clearly help.  Thanks for the
                                          suggstion Losif.  Denise, lets
                                          see if we can get these as we
                                          do per-project interviews in
                                          the coming weeks.

                                        


                                        

                                        
Best,

                                        


                                        

                                        
Phil.

                                        

                                          

                                            
 

                                            

                                              

                                                
 

                                                  

                                                  Thanks a lot for all
                                                  your help.

                                                  

                                                  

                                                  Best Regards,

                                                  Iosif 

                                                  

                                                    
 

                                                      

                                                      

                                                      

                                                      

                                                      

                                                      On 10/29/2015
                                                      02:22 AM, Phil
                                                      Robb wrote:

                                                    

                                                  

                                                

                                                

                                                  

                                                    

                                                      
Hello

                                                        Everyone:
                                                        


                                                        

                                                        
My
                                                          apologies for
                                                          missing this
                                                          thread
                                                          entirely until
                                                          now.  It's
                                                          totally my
                                                          bad. 

                                                        


                                                        

                                                        
I'd like to
                                                          start with a
                                                          level set so
                                                          that I know
                                                          where everyone
                                                          is in getting
                                                          up to speed.

                                                        


                                                        

                                                        
First off,
                                                          yes trying to
                                                          search for
                                                          documentation
                                                          via google is
                                                          particularly
                                                          painful for
                                                          OpenDaylight. 
                                                          The Hydrogen
                                                          release of the
                                                          documentation
                                                          was
                                                          implemented on
                                                          the wiki but
                                                          for most of
                                                          Helium and all
                                                          of Lithium the
                                                          user facing
                                                          documentation
                                                          has been
                                                          compiled into
                                                          PDF documents
                                                          on the
                                                          OpenDaylight.org
                                                          site.  So the
                                                          best curated
                                                          documentation
                                                          we have is in
                                                          our pdf based
                                                          documents on
                                                          the
                                                          OpenDaylight.org
                                                          site and that
                                                          isn't crawled
                                                          by google (but
                                                          the very stale
                                                          wiki pages
                                                          are).  Are you
                                                          all familiar
                                                          with the
                                                          documents
                                                          produced and
                                                          available for
                                                          download
                                                          here?: https://www.opendaylight.org/downloads

                                                        


                                                        

                                                        
Second, did
                                                          anyone get the
                                                          chance to
                                                          attend the ODL
                                                          Summit and
                                                          take the
                                                          day-long
                                                          tutorial given
                                                          by Ed Warnicke
                                                          on "A Grand
                                                          Tour Of Coding
                                                          For
                                                          OpenDaylight"? 
                                                          For anyone
                                                          that did not,
                                                          it will be
                                                          helpful to go
                                                          through that
                                                          material.  We
                                                          have a wiki
                                                          page that
                                                          includes the
                                                          16 labs done
                                                          in the
                                                          tutorial along
                                                          with the
                                                          slides
                                                          presented, the
                                                          USB image that
                                                          was
                                                          distributed
                                                          and used
                                                          throughout the
                                                          tutorial and
                                                          youtube video
                                                          recordings
                                                          that comprise
                                                          the day-long
                                                          event.  At the
                                                          Summit they
                                                          only got
                                                          through 13 of
                                                          the 16
                                                          tutorials so
                                                          that is all
                                                          you'll see on
                                                          the
                                                          recording. 
                                                          I'm working
                                                          with Ed to
                                                          have him
                                                          record the
                                                          last 3 labs
                                                          for
                                                          completeness
                                                          but that is
                                                          not done yet. 
                                                          If you watch
                                                          this and have
                                                          questions,
                                                          please reach
                                                          out to Ed on
                                                          irc (he's a
                                                          bit
                                                          hit-or-miss
                                                          via email). 
                                                          Ed's irc
                                                          handle is
                                                          "edwarnicke"

                                                        


                                                        

                                                        
Next, the
                                                          best resource
                                                          for each
                                                          project is
                                                          their
                                                          individual
                                                          project page
                                                          on the wiki. 
                                                          Each project
                                                          is required to
                                                          have one and
                                                          keep it up to
                                                          date.  Also on
                                                          it is a
                                                          project "Fact
                                                          Box" that
                                                          contains the
                                                          contact
                                                          information
                                                          for the
                                                          project lead
                                                          and all
                                                          committers as
                                                          well as their
                                                          mailing list,
                                                          irc channel,
                                                          meeting
                                                          information
                                                          etc.  In
                                                          addition each
                                                          page often
                                                          contains
                                                          pointers to
                                                          their most
                                                          recent wiki
                                                          page
                                                          documentation
                                                          and any other
                                                          relevant
                                                          resources. 
                                                          The full list
                                                          is here: https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Project_list
                                                          and the
                                                          specific
                                                          projects in
                                                          question are
                                                          here:

                                                        
                                                        
                                                        
                                                        
                                                        
                                                        
                                                        


                                                        

                                                        
Also note,
                                                          that if you
                                                          are ever
                                                          concerned that
                                                          something
                                                          might be out
                                                          of date, just
                                                          click on the
                                                          "view history"
                                                          tab at the top
                                                          of the wiki
                                                          page.  That
                                                          will show you
                                                          when the most
                                                          recent changes
                                                          were made
                                                          giving you
                                                          some level of
                                                          confidence on
                                                          the
                                                          "freshness" of
                                                          the material.

                                                        


                                                        

                                                        
If you've
                                                          not yet looked
                                                          through the
                                                          above material
                                                          please do so
                                                          and let me
                                                          know if it
                                                          helps.  The
                                                          next step will
                                                          be to reach
                                                          out to the
                                                          Project leads
                                                          for each of
                                                          the above
                                                          either on the
                                                          mailing lists
                                                          or irc
                                                          channels with
                                                          your specific
                                                          questions. 
                                                          What the
                                                          community
                                                          lacks in
                                                          documentation
                                                          (and we know
                                                          we lack in
                                                          documentation)
                                                          we make up for
                                                          in timely
                                                          responses to
                                                          your
                                                          questions...
                                                          unless your
                                                          request gets
                                                          lost in my
                                                          inbox... but
                                                          I've already
                                                          covered that
                                                          above in this
                                                          email... and
                                                          again, sorry
                                                          about that.

                                                        


                                                        

                                                        
Best,

                                                        


                                                        

                                                        
Phil.

                                                        


                                                        

                                                        


                                                        

                                                        

                                                          
On

                                                          Thu, Sep 24,
                                                          2015 at 9:42
                                                          PM, Iosif
                                                          Legrand <Iosif.Legrand@...>
                                                          wrote:

                                                          
Hello



                                                          Melissa,

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          Thank you very
                                                          much for your
                                                          email.

                                                          

                                                          I would  like
                                                          to learn more
                                                          about using
                                                          Yang tools

                                                          in the ODL
                                                          framework to
                                                          setup and
                                                          control  flows
                                                          .

                                                          I saw many
                                                          presentations
                                                          describing the
                                                          power and

                                                          flexibility
                                                          for this
                                                          approach , but
                                                          is  hard to
                                                          find

                                                          documentation
                                                          and 
                                                          simple/realistic
                                                          examples in
                                                          using it .

                                                          

                                                          I am also
                                                          interested to
                                                          learn using
                                                          ALTO, LACP,
                                                          Opflex, Intend
                                                          .

                                                          

                                                          A significant
                                                          part of the
                                                          on-line
                                                          documentation

                                                          (using web
                                                          search
                                                          engines) or
                                                          examples  is
                                                          for Hydrogen
                                                          or Helium

                                                          releases and 
                                                           is not
                                                          updated for
                                                          the Lithium
                                                          version.

                                                          In the doc
                                                          wiki pages
                                                          there are many
                                                          broken links
                                                          or links to

                                                          old version
                                                          for the
                                                          documentation.

                                                          

                                                          I think that
                                                          good
                                                          documentation
                                                          is very
                                                          important for
                                                          such a complex

                                                          project.  I
                                                          also believe
                                                          that having 
                                                          simple 
                                                          examples in
                                                          using

                                                          ODL framework
                                                          for realistic
                                                          problems /
                                                          configuration
                                                          will help a

                                                          lot the user
                                                          community .

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          Best Regards,

                                                          ioji
                                                          

                                                          


                                                          

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          On 9/23/2015
                                                          7:06 PM,
                                                          Melissa Logan
                                                          wrote:

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          
 Hi
                                                          Losif,

                                                          

                                                          Thank you for
                                                          that feedback.
                                                          The good news
                                                          is that we'll
                                                          soon have a

                                                          resource who
                                                          will be
                                                          updating key
                                                          documentation,
                                                          but it may
                                                          take some time

                                                          before you see
                                                          the results.
                                                          Which projects
                                                          specifically
                                                          do you need
                                                          help

                                                          with? We may
                                                          be able to
                                                          find community
                                                          members who
                                                          can help.

                                                          

                                                          Melissa

                                                          

                                                          On Wed, Sep
                                                          23, 2015 at
                                                          9:15 AM, Iosif
                                                          Legrand <Iosif.Legrand@...>

                                                          wrote:

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          
 Hello ,

                                                          

                                                          I am trying to
                                                          learn it and
                                                          use it in our
                                                          environment.

                                                          There are
                                                          several new
                                                          interesting
                                                          projects /
                                                          modules in
                                                          Lithium

                                                          but is no 
                                                          appropriate
                                                          documentation
                                                          and examples
                                                          in how to use
                                                          them.

                                                          This is most
                                                          frustrating
                                                          part .

                                                          

                                                          Regards,

                                                          Iosif

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          On 09/23/2015
                                                          04:57 PM,
                                                          Harvey Newman
                                                          wrote:

                                                          

                                                          Iosif is
                                                          studying
                                                          Lithium and
                                                          can comment.

                                                          Harvey

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          On 9/23/2015
                                                          7:10 AM,
                                                          Melissa Logan
                                                          wrote:

                                                          

                                                          OK great! We
                                                          will be in
                                                          touch with the
                                                          materials for
                                                          input.

                                                          

                                                          With regard to
                                                          Lithium, how
                                                          is that
                                                          progressing
                                                          for you?

                                                          On Sep 23,
                                                          2015 6:50 AM,
                                                          "Harvey
                                                          Newman" <newman@...>



                                                          wrote:

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          
   Dear
                                                          Melissa,

                                                          

                                                          I am open to
                                                          this and would
                                                          be glad to
                                                          follow this up
                                                          with you.

                                                          

                                                          Regards

                                                          Harvey

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          On 9/22/2015
                                                          8:50 PM,
                                                          Melissa Logan
                                                          wrote:

                                                          

                                                          Hi Harvey,
                                                          Julian and
                                                          Dorian!

                                                          

                                                          I hope you're
                                                          all doing
                                                          well. Have you
                                                          found any dark
                                                          matter yet, or

                                                          hints of
                                                          supersymmetry?

                                                          

                                                          With regard to
                                                          SC15, we
                                                          wondered if
                                                          you would you
                                                          have the
                                                          ability to

                                                          debut or show
                                                          the video we
                                                          created with
                                                          you folks? We
                                                          thought that
                                                          might be

                                                          a perfect
                                                          venue to debut
                                                          it (i.e. if
                                                          you have a TV
                                                          in your booth,
                                                          or

                                                          perhaps during
                                                          a paper
                                                          presentation
                                                          if that makes
                                                          sense?) while
                                                          we would

                                                          publish it on
                                                          our blog,
                                                          social media,
                                                          newsletter
                                                          etc. What do
                                                          you think?

                                                          

                                                          We could even
                                                          perhaps
                                                          schedule
                                                          interviews
                                                          with a couple
                                                          HPC reporters

                                                          (e.g. HPCwire,
                                                          ZDNet) who
                                                          might be
                                                          interested in
                                                          hearing about
                                                          your

                                                          experiences,
                                                          as well as
                                                          ODL's
                                                          perspective.
                                                          Would you be
                                                          open to that?
                                                          If so

                                                          we can get the
                                                          video
                                                          finalized by
                                                          early October
                                                          and start
                                                          reaching out
                                                          to

                                                          reporters
                                                          around mid to
                                                          late October
                                                          to pitch.

                                                          

                                                          Melissa

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          On Fri, Aug
                                                          21, 2015 at
                                                          9:55 AM, Jill
                                                          Lovato <

                                                          

                                                          

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                                                          wrote:

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          
 Hi
                                                          Harvey,

                                                          

                                                          That's great
                                                          news!  Please
                                                          keep us
                                                          updated on
                                                          your
                                                          submission and
                                                          paper,

                                                          and feel free
                                                          to pass along
                                                          both the
                                                          abstract you
                                                          submitted as
                                                          well as the

                                                          paper for
                                                          reference.

                                                          

                                                          We'd like to
                                                          release the
                                                          CERN video in
                                                          tandem with
                                                          SC15. Your
                                                          presence

                                                          and
                                                          presentation
                                                          at the event
                                                          and discussion
                                                          of
                                                          OpenDaylight
                                                          use would be a

                                                          good
                                                          compliment to
                                                          our
                                                          promotional
                                                          efforts
                                                          surrounding
                                                          the video. We
                                                          may

                                                          also want to
                                                          set up some
                                                          press
                                                          briefings at
                                                          that time. Let
                                                          us know if you

                                                          have any
                                                          concerns with
                                                          that approach,
                                                          otherwise
                                                          we'll move
                                                          forward.

                                                          

                                                          As for
                                                          assistance
                                                          with the
                                                          release and
                                                          the packages,
                                                          we'd love to
                                                          help.

                                                          Let us know
                                                          what you need
                                                          and we can put
                                                          you in touch
                                                          with our
                                                          technical

                                                          director, Phil
                                                          Robb, and
                                                          perhaps some
                                                          other members
                                                          of the
                                                          OpenDaylight

                                                          community, to
                                                          get that
                                                          moving.

                                                          

                                                          Thanks,

                                                          Jill

                                                          

                                                          On Tue, Aug
                                                          11, 2015 at
                                                          11:54 PM,
                                                          Harvey Newman
                                                          <newman@...>

                                                          wrote:

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          
 Hi Jill
                                                          and Melissa,

                                                          

                                                          Indeed we are
                                                          preparing for
                                                          SC15 and part
                                                          of our plan is
                                                          to talk

                                                          about our
                                                          experiences
                                                          with
                                                          OpenDaylight.
                                                          Julian and
                                                          Dorian

                                                          just submitted
                                                          an abstract to
                                                          the INDIS
                                                          workshop on
                                                          our

                                                          SC14
                                                          experiences
                                                          and more
                                                          recent
                                                          progress, and
                                                          a paper is

                                                          (very shortly)
                                                          due.

                                                          

                                                          We will also
                                                          mention some
                                                          of the same
                                                          progress in
                                                          the ESnet

                                                          R&D
                                                          workshop
                                                          planned at
                                                          about the same
                                                          time.

                                                          

                                                          Best regards

                                                          Harvey

                                                          

                                                          PS Your
                                                          contact with
                                                          us also is
                                                          opportune in
                                                          that we would
                                                          like

                                                          to present a
                                                          strong case
                                                          for ODL
                                                          Lithium. For
                                                          that to happen

                                                          we would need
                                                          some
                                                          assistance
                                                          with the
                                                          release as it
                                                          continues

                                                          to evolve, and
                                                          for some of
                                                          the packages
                                                          to settle down
                                                          by October

                                                          or earlier. We
                                                          understand
                                                          that other
                                                          users have had
                                                          similar recent

                                                          experience.

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          On 8/12/2015
                                                          3:05 AM, Jill
                                                          Lovato wrote:

                                                          

                                                          Hi Julian and
                                                          Harvey,

                                                          

                                                          Hope you are
                                                          doing well! I
                                                          work with
                                                          Melissa Logan
                                                          on PR for

                                                          OpenDaylight,
                                                          and am
                                                          reaching out
                                                          regarding the
                                                          Supercomputing
                                                          2015

                                                          conference in
                                                          Austin
                                                          November
                                                          15-20: <http://sc15.supercomputing.org/>

                                                          http://sc15.supercomputing.org/

                                                          

                                                          We don't
                                                          currently have
                                                          plans to
                                                          participate in
                                                          the event, but
                                                          are

                                                          thinking it
                                                          might be
                                                          really
                                                          compelling to
                                                          the community
                                                          to talk about
                                                          how

                                                          Caltech is
                                                          using
                                                          OpenDaylight.
                                                          We're going to
                                                          get more
                                                          details on the
                                                          event

                                                          and various
                                                          presentation
                                                          options, but
                                                          wanted to
                                                          reach out now
                                                          to see if

                                                          this is
                                                          something
                                                          you'd be
                                                          interested in;
                                                          we'd love to
                                                          work with you
                                                          on

                                                          something!

                                                          

                                                          Looking
                                                          forward to
                                                          your thoughts
                                                          on this, and
                                                          we'll be in
                                                          touch again

                                                          when we have
                                                          more details.

                                                          

                                                          Thank you,

                                                          Jill

                                                          

                                                          

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Hi Azher,

May I ask which version are you using? Lithium-0.3.2-SNAPSHOT is not a stable version. And Lithium-0.4.0 is not a valid version number. So I assume you're using Beryllium 0.4.0, which is not a stable version either. I suggest you downgrade to a stable version of ODL, say 0.3.2-Lithium-SR2, to solve these problems.

Regards,
Junzhuo

2015-10-31 22:38 GMT+08:00 Azher Mughal <azher@...>:

        
          
          

          

            

  
    
  
  

    We recently moved from Lithium 0.3.2 snapshot to Lithium 0.4.0
    snapshot. I added features in order at line 60, while rest by Iosif.

    

    > history

    

       60  feature:install odl-restconf odl-l2switch-switch
    odl-openflowplugin-all odl-mdsal-apidocs odl-dlux-all
    odl-adsal-northbound

       61  features:install -l 

       62  help

       63                         feature:install -l

       64  feature:install -l

       65  feature:install odl-alto-provider

       66  feature:install odl-alto-manager

       67  feature:list

       68  feature:install odl-alto-core 

       69  feature:install odl-alto-manager

       70  feature:install odl-alto-provider

       71  feature:install odl-alto-manager

       72  feature:install odl-alto-northbound

       73  feature:install odl-alto-hosttracker

       74  history 

    

    -Azher

    

    
On 10/31/2015 1:25 AM, Iosif Legrand
      wrote:

    

    

      
      
Hello Jensen,

        

        

        Thank you very much for your email. 

        

        Azher from our group ( in cc ) installed the ODL , and as far as
        know 

        from him, he installed the pre-built Lithium - SR2.

        Azher , please send Jensen the command line history from our 
        installation. 

        

        With Best Regards,

        Iosif 

        

        

        

        

        On 10/31/2015 08:04 AM, Jensen Zhang wrote:

      

      

        
        

          

            
Hi Losif,

              

            

            Thanks for your feedback.

            

            "ALTO:Lithium User Guide" (https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/ALTO:Lithium_User_Guide)
              assumes that you are using OpenDaylight Lithium Release.
            But It seems that you are not using the Lithium Release.
            These modules you list in karaf are in our master branch, so
            the Lithium User Guide is not fit for them.

            

          

          
However, I am not sure how you install your OpenDaylight.
            May I get your command-line history or some logs so that we
            can help you better?

            

          

          
BTW. I think you can get the pre-built version of ODL
            Lithium-SR2 from this link (https://www.opendaylight.org/downloads).

          

          


          

          
Regards,

          

          

            

              

                

                  

                    

                      

                        
Jensen

                        

                      

                    

                  

                

              

            

            

            
2015-10-31 7:29 GMT+08:00 Harvey
              Newman <newman@...>:

              

                
 Much appreciated
                  Phil and All.

                  

                  As you can see we have some very specific questions,

                  and an issue of documentation as well.

                  

                  Thanks for following this through with Iosif

                  

                   (and the other team members cited).

                  

                  Best regards

                  Harvey
                  

                    


                      

                      

                      
On 10/30/2015 4:22 PM, Phil Robb wrote:

                      

                    

                  

                  

                    

                      

                        
Hello Kai & Jensen:
                          


                          

                          
I sent this to Richard yesterday not
                            realizing that the leadership of the project
                            has changed this past week.

                          


                          

                          
The folks at CalTech woking on the Large
                            Hadron Collider are using OpenDaylight to
                            distribute the data they collect to a
                            network of participating universities and
                            they're interested in using ALTO as part of
                            that effort.

                          


                          

                          
However, they are having some issues in
                            getting everything stood up.  Could you guys
                            take a look at the email below and respond
                            to Losif Legrand and team with any insights
                            you may have?

                          


                          

                          
Thanks in advance for your help with
                            this.

                          


                          

                          
Phil.

                          


                            
On Fri, Oct 30,
                              2015 at 9:45 AM, Phil Robb <probb@...>
                              wrote:

                              

                                
Hi Losif:
                                  


                                  

                                  
Thanks for your detailed email
                                    regarding ALTO.  It sounds like
                                    you've got more of these regarding
                                    other ODL projects but let's take
                                    them one at a time.

                                  


                                  

                                  
I've cc-ed the lead of the docs
                                    team (Colin Dixon), a Tech-Writer we
                                    have on contract to help us with our
                                    documentation (Denise [Walters]
                                    Boehm) and the Project Lead for the
                                    ALTO project (Richard Yang). 
                                    Richard should be able to help us
                                    with getting you sorted out
                                    regarding the ALTO implementation in
                                    OpenDaylight-Lithium and Denise and
                                    Colin can take what we learn here to
                                    improve the documentation in the
                                    future.

                                  


                                  

                                  
Further comments inline below...

                                    


                                      
On
                                          Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 3:38 AM,
                                          Iosif Legrand <Iosif.Legrand@...>
                                          wrote:

                                          

                                            

                                              
Hello Phil,

                                                

                                                

                                                Thank you very much for
                                                your email and the links
                                                to the documentation. 

                                                

                                                Unfortunately there are
                                                significant  discrepancy
                                                between  documentation
                                                and 

                                                and the distribution
                                                (Lithium)  we are trying
                                                to use .

                                              

                                            

                                          

                                          


                                          

                                        
                                        
Actually, the problem you
                                          are running into is not due to
                                          stale documentation from a
                                          previous release.  Lithium is
                                          the first release that
                                          contained ALTO.... not that it
                                          makes the situation any
                                          better.

                                        
                                          
 

                                          

                                            

                                              
 

                                                I would like to show you
                                                the example for ALTO:

                                                

                                                From "ALTO:Lithium User
                                                Guide" (https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/ALTO:Lithium_User_Guide)

                                                these are the
                                                instructions to install
                                                ALTO :

                                                

                                                
To enable ALTO, the
                                                  features must be
                                                  installed first. 

                                                
 feature:install odl-alto-provider
 feature:install odl-alto-manager
 feature:install odl-alto-northbound
 feature:install odl-alto-hosttracker

                                              

                                            

                                          

                                          


                                          

                                        
                                        
From what I can see Losif
                                          you are correct.  The page you
                                          reference, and the
                                          documentation in the Lithium
                                          User Guide (page 23) is
                                          incorrect.  I believe the
                                          correct documentation for the
                                          installation of ALTO is in the
                                          Lithium Getting Started Guide
                                          (page 5) with the command
                                          "feature:install
                                          odl-alto-all".  Richard Yang,
                                          please confirm this.

                                        


                                        

                                        
Denise, as you can see, our
                                          problem will often be not that
                                          the correct documentation
                                          isn't available, but that it
                                          is that it is lost in a sea of
                                          incorrect information.

                                        

                                          

                                            
 

                                            

                                              

                                                
 From these 4
                                                  modules the first two
                                                  do not work :

                                                  

                                                  opendaylight-user@root>feature:install


                                                  odl-alto-provider

                                                  Error executing
                                                  command: No feature
                                                  matching
                                                  odl-alto-provider/0.0.0

                                                  opendaylight-user@root>feature:install


                                                  odl-alto-manager

                                                  Error executing
                                                  command: No feature
                                                  matching
                                                  odl-alto-manager/0.0.0

                                                  opendaylight-user@root>feature:install


                                                  odl-alto-northbound

                                                  opendaylight-user@root>feature:install


                                                  odl-alto-hosttracker

                                                  

                                                  If I list all the
                                                  modules in karaf ,
                                                  these are the
                                                  available modules for
                                                  alto :

                                                  

                                                  odl-alto-release                             


                                                  

                                                  odl-alto-core                                


                                                  

                                                  odl-alto-basic                               


                                                  

                                                  odl-alto-extension                           


                                                  

                                                  odl-alto-standard-types                      


                                                  

                                                  odl-alto-resourcepool                        


                                                  

                                                  odl-alto-northbound                          


                                                  

                                                  odl-alto-standard-service-model             


                                                  

                                                  odl-alto-standard-northbound-route          


                                                  

                                                  odl-alto-standard-resource-translator        


                                                  

                                                  odl-alto-ird                                


                                                  

                                                  odl-alto-manual-maps                      


                                                  

                                                  odl-alto-hosttracker                         


                                                  

                                                  odl-alto-nonstandard-types                  


                                                  

                                                  odl-alto-nonstandard-service-model           


                                                  

                                                  odl-alto-nonstandard-northbound-route        


                                                  

                                                  odl-messaging4transport-api                  


                                                  

                                                  odl-messaging4transport 

                                                  

                                                  

                                                  There  are 18 ALTO
                                                  modules . 

                                                

                                              

                                            

                                            


                                            

                                          

                                        

                                        
This will not be uncommon
                                          for modules within
                                          OpenDaylight's Karaf
                                          distribution Losif.  Many
                                          projects create various karaf
                                          bundles for their own purposes
                                          in a finer granularity than is
                                          significant to the end user. 
                                          We have "user facing karaf
                                          features" that aggregate
                                          multiple smaller bundles into
                                          a collection that is exposed
                                          and documented to the end
                                          user.  I have a feeling, in
                                          the beginning, the ALTO team
                                          thought that the four user
                                          facing features made sense,
                                          but at some point along the
                                          way changed to just using
                                          "alto-all" to fully install
                                          the full ALTO functionality. 
                                          Richard, feel free to correct
                                          me or add additional insights.

                                        
                                          
 

                                          

                                            

                                              
 

                                                The documentation
                                                describes only the  ALTO
                                                -manager but this 

                                                modules does not exist
                                                anymore in the
                                                distribution. 

                                                All these new modules 
                                                are totally
                                                undocumented. 

                                                

                                                After installing these
                                                new modules I tried to
                                                only 

                                                example on the
                                                documentation page using
                                                the apidoc 

                                                explorer and it does not
                                                seem to work. 

                                                I also tried using curl
                                                on cli. 

                                              

                                            

                                          

                                          


                                          

                                        
                                        
I would have expected that
                                          if you loaded all the ALTO
                                          features, that was equivalent
                                          to installing "alto-all". 
                                          Richard, can you or someone
                                          from the ALTO project help
                                          Losif and his team get ALTO up
                                          and running in their
                                          environment?

                                        
                                          
 

                                          

                                            

                                              
 

                                                Changing the name of the
                                                modules and adding many
                                                

                                                new undocumented modules
                                                for the same 

                                                distribution ( Lithium)
                                                makes it really
                                                difficult to use it .

                                                

                                                

                                                

                                                In my option, it will be
                                                very  useful  for the
                                                users to have a set 

                                                of simple / realistic
                                                examples in how to use
                                                these modules. 

                                              

                                            

                                          

                                          


                                          

                                        
                                        
Basic/simple examples would
                                          clearly help.  Thanks for the
                                          suggstion Losif.  Denise, lets
                                          see if we can get these as we
                                          do per-project interviews in
                                          the coming weeks.

                                        


                                        

                                        
Best,

                                        


                                        

                                        
Phil.

                                        

                                          

                                            
 

                                            

                                              

                                                
 

                                                  

                                                  Thanks a lot for all
                                                  your help.

                                                  

                                                  

                                                  Best Regards,

                                                  Iosif 

                                                  

                                                    
 

                                                      

                                                      

                                                      

                                                      

                                                      

                                                      On 10/29/2015
                                                      02:22 AM, Phil
                                                      Robb wrote:

                                                    

                                                  

                                                

                                                

                                                  

                                                    

                                                      
Hello

                                                        Everyone:
                                                        


                                                        

                                                        
My
                                                          apologies for
                                                          missing this
                                                          thread
                                                          entirely until
                                                          now.  It's
                                                          totally my
                                                          bad. 

                                                        


                                                        

                                                        
I'd like to
                                                          start with a
                                                          level set so
                                                          that I know
                                                          where everyone
                                                          is in getting
                                                          up to speed.

                                                        


                                                        

                                                        
First off,
                                                          yes trying to
                                                          search for
                                                          documentation
                                                          via google is
                                                          particularly
                                                          painful for
                                                          OpenDaylight. 
                                                          The Hydrogen
                                                          release of the
                                                          documentation
                                                          was
                                                          implemented on
                                                          the wiki but
                                                          for most of
                                                          Helium and all
                                                          of Lithium the
                                                          user facing
                                                          documentation
                                                          has been
                                                          compiled into
                                                          PDF documents
                                                          on the
                                                          OpenDaylight.org
                                                          site.  So the
                                                          best curated
                                                          documentation
                                                          we have is in
                                                          our pdf based
                                                          documents on
                                                          the
                                                          OpenDaylight.org
                                                          site and that
                                                          isn't crawled
                                                          by google (but
                                                          the very stale
                                                          wiki pages
                                                          are).  Are you
                                                          all familiar
                                                          with the
                                                          documents
                                                          produced and
                                                          available for
                                                          download
                                                          here?: https://www.opendaylight.org/downloads

                                                        


                                                        

                                                        
Second, did
                                                          anyone get the
                                                          chance to
                                                          attend the ODL
                                                          Summit and
                                                          take the
                                                          day-long
                                                          tutorial given
                                                          by Ed Warnicke
                                                          on "A Grand
                                                          Tour Of Coding
                                                          For
                                                          OpenDaylight"? 
                                                          For anyone
                                                          that did not,
                                                          it will be
                                                          helpful to go
                                                          through that
                                                          material.  We
                                                          have a wiki
                                                          page that
                                                          includes the
                                                          16 labs done
                                                          in the
                                                          tutorial along
                                                          with the
                                                          slides
                                                          presented, the
                                                          USB image that
                                                          was
                                                          distributed
                                                          and used
                                                          throughout the
                                                          tutorial and
                                                          youtube video
                                                          recordings
                                                          that comprise
                                                          the day-long
                                                          event.  At the
                                                          Summit they
                                                          only got
                                                          through 13 of
                                                          the 16
                                                          tutorials so
                                                          that is all
                                                          you'll see on
                                                          the
                                                          recording. 
                                                          I'm working
                                                          with Ed to
                                                          have him
                                                          record the
                                                          last 3 labs
                                                          for
                                                          completeness
                                                          but that is
                                                          not done yet. 
                                                          If you watch
                                                          this and have
                                                          questions,
                                                          please reach
                                                          out to Ed on
                                                          irc (he's a
                                                          bit
                                                          hit-or-miss
                                                          via email). 
                                                          Ed's irc
                                                          handle is
                                                          "edwarnicke"

                                                        


                                                        

                                                        
Next, the
                                                          best resource
                                                          for each
                                                          project is
                                                          their
                                                          individual
                                                          project page
                                                          on the wiki. 
                                                          Each project
                                                          is required to
                                                          have one and
                                                          keep it up to
                                                          date.  Also on
                                                          it is a
                                                          project "Fact
                                                          Box" that
                                                          contains the
                                                          contact
                                                          information
                                                          for the
                                                          project lead
                                                          and all
                                                          committers as
                                                          well as their
                                                          mailing list,
                                                          irc channel,
                                                          meeting
                                                          information
                                                          etc.  In
                                                          addition each
                                                          page often
                                                          contains
                                                          pointers to
                                                          their most
                                                          recent wiki
                                                          page
                                                          documentation
                                                          and any other
                                                          relevant
                                                          resources. 
                                                          The full list
                                                          is here: https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Project_list
                                                          and the
                                                          specific
                                                          projects in
                                                          question are
                                                          here:

                                                        
                                                        
                                                        
                                                        
                                                        
                                                        
                                                        


                                                        

                                                        
Also note,
                                                          that if you
                                                          are ever
                                                          concerned that
                                                          something
                                                          might be out
                                                          of date, just
                                                          click on the
                                                          "view history"
                                                          tab at the top
                                                          of the wiki
                                                          page.  That
                                                          will show you
                                                          when the most
                                                          recent changes
                                                          were made
                                                          giving you
                                                          some level of
                                                          confidence on
                                                          the
                                                          "freshness" of
                                                          the material.

                                                        


                                                        

                                                        
If you've
                                                          not yet looked
                                                          through the
                                                          above material
                                                          please do so
                                                          and let me
                                                          know if it
                                                          helps.  The
                                                          next step will
                                                          be to reach
                                                          out to the
                                                          Project leads
                                                          for each of
                                                          the above
                                                          either on the
                                                          mailing lists
                                                          or irc
                                                          channels with
                                                          your specific
                                                          questions. 
                                                          What the
                                                          community
                                                          lacks in
                                                          documentation
                                                          (and we know
                                                          we lack in
                                                          documentation)
                                                          we make up for
                                                          in timely
                                                          responses to
                                                          your
                                                          questions...
                                                          unless your
                                                          request gets
                                                          lost in my
                                                          inbox... but
                                                          I've already
                                                          covered that
                                                          above in this
                                                          email... and
                                                          again, sorry
                                                          about that.

                                                        


                                                        

                                                        
Best,

                                                        


                                                        

                                                        
Phil.

                                                        


                                                        

                                                        


                                                        

                                                        

                                                          
On

                                                          Thu, Sep 24,
                                                          2015 at 9:42
                                                          PM, Iosif
                                                          Legrand <Iosif.Legrand@...>
                                                          wrote:

                                                          
Hello



                                                          Melissa,

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          Thank you very
                                                          much for your
                                                          email.

                                                          

                                                          I would  like
                                                          to learn more
                                                          about using
                                                          Yang tools

                                                          in the ODL
                                                          framework to
                                                          setup and
                                                          control  flows
                                                          .

                                                          I saw many
                                                          presentations
                                                          describing the
                                                          power and

                                                          flexibility
                                                          for this
                                                          approach , but
                                                          is  hard to
                                                          find

                                                          documentation
                                                          and 
                                                          simple/realistic
                                                          examples in
                                                          using it .

                                                          

                                                          I am also
                                                          interested to
                                                          learn using
                                                          ALTO, LACP,
                                                          Opflex, Intend
                                                          .

                                                          

                                                          A significant
                                                          part of the
                                                          on-line
                                                          documentation

                                                          (using web
                                                          search
                                                          engines) or
                                                          examples  is
                                                          for Hydrogen
                                                          or Helium

                                                          releases and 
                                                           is not
                                                          updated for
                                                          the Lithium
                                                          version.

                                                          In the doc
                                                          wiki pages
                                                          there are many
                                                          broken links
                                                          or links to

                                                          old version
                                                          for the
                                                          documentation.

                                                          

                                                          I think that
                                                          good
                                                          documentation
                                                          is very
                                                          important for
                                                          such a complex

                                                          project.  I
                                                          also believe
                                                          that having 
                                                          simple 
                                                          examples in
                                                          using

                                                          ODL framework
                                                          for realistic
                                                          problems /
                                                          configuration
                                                          will help a

                                                          lot the user
                                                          community .

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          Best Regards,

                                                          ioji
                                                          

                                                          


                                                          

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          On 9/23/2015
                                                          7:06 PM,
                                                          Melissa Logan
                                                          wrote:

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          
 Hi
                                                          Losif,

                                                          

                                                          Thank you for
                                                          that feedback.
                                                          The good news
                                                          is that we'll
                                                          soon have a

                                                          resource who
                                                          will be
                                                          updating key
                                                          documentation,
                                                          but it may
                                                          take some time

                                                          before you see
                                                          the results.
                                                          Which projects
                                                          specifically
                                                          do you need
                                                          help

                                                          with? We may
                                                          be able to
                                                          find community
                                                          members who
                                                          can help.

                                                          

                                                          Melissa

                                                          

                                                          On Wed, Sep
                                                          23, 2015 at
                                                          9:15 AM, Iosif
                                                          Legrand <Iosif.Legrand@...>

                                                          wrote:

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          
 Hello ,

                                                          

                                                          I am trying to
                                                          learn it and
                                                          use it in our
                                                          environment.

                                                          There are
                                                          several new
                                                          interesting
                                                          projects /
                                                          modules in
                                                          Lithium

                                                          but is no 
                                                          appropriate
                                                          documentation
                                                          and examples
                                                          in how to use
                                                          them.

                                                          This is most
                                                          frustrating
                                                          part .

                                                          

                                                          Regards,

                                                          Iosif

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          On 09/23/2015
                                                          04:57 PM,
                                                          Harvey Newman
                                                          wrote:

                                                          

                                                          Iosif is
                                                          studying
                                                          Lithium and
                                                          can comment.

                                                          Harvey

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          On 9/23/2015
                                                          7:10 AM,
                                                          Melissa Logan
                                                          wrote:

                                                          

                                                          OK great! We
                                                          will be in
                                                          touch with the
                                                          materials for
                                                          input.

                                                          

                                                          With regard to
                                                          Lithium, how
                                                          is that
                                                          progressing
                                                          for you?

                                                          On Sep 23,
                                                          2015 6:50 AM,
                                                          "Harvey
                                                          Newman" <newman@...>



                                                          wrote:

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          
   Dear
                                                          Melissa,

                                                          

                                                          I am open to
                                                          this and would
                                                          be glad to
                                                          follow this up
                                                          with you.

                                                          

                                                          Regards

                                                          Harvey

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          On 9/22/2015
                                                          8:50 PM,
                                                          Melissa Logan
                                                          wrote:

                                                          

                                                          Hi Harvey,
                                                          Julian and
                                                          Dorian!

                                                          

                                                          I hope you're
                                                          all doing
                                                          well. Have you
                                                          found any dark
                                                          matter yet, or

                                                          hints of
                                                          supersymmetry?

                                                          

                                                          With regard to
                                                          SC15, we
                                                          wondered if
                                                          you would you
                                                          have the
                                                          ability to

                                                          debut or show
                                                          the video we
                                                          created with
                                                          you folks? We
                                                          thought that
                                                          might be

                                                          a perfect
                                                          venue to debut
                                                          it (i.e. if
                                                          you have a TV
                                                          in your booth,
                                                          or

                                                          perhaps during
                                                          a paper
                                                          presentation
                                                          if that makes
                                                          sense?) while
                                                          we would

                                                          publish it on
                                                          our blog,
                                                          social media,
                                                          newsletter
                                                          etc. What do
                                                          you think?

                                                          

                                                          We could even
                                                          perhaps
                                                          schedule
                                                          interviews
                                                          with a couple
                                                          HPC reporters

                                                          (e.g. HPCwire,
                                                          ZDNet) who
                                                          might be
                                                          interested in
                                                          hearing about
                                                          your

                                                          experiences,
                                                          as well as
                                                          ODL's
                                                          perspective.
                                                          Would you be
                                                          open to that?
                                                          If so

                                                          we can get the
                                                          video
                                                          finalized by
                                                          early October
                                                          and start
                                                          reaching out
                                                          to

                                                          reporters
                                                          around mid to
                                                          late October
                                                          to pitch.

                                                          

                                                          Melissa

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          On Fri, Aug
                                                          21, 2015 at
                                                          9:55 AM, Jill
                                                          Lovato <

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          <jlovato@...>jlovato@...>



                                                          wrote:

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          
 Hi
                                                          Harvey,

                                                          

                                                          That's great
                                                          news!  Please
                                                          keep us
                                                          updated on
                                                          your
                                                          submission and
                                                          paper,

                                                          and feel free
                                                          to pass along
                                                          both the
                                                          abstract you
                                                          submitted as
                                                          well as the

                                                          paper for
                                                          reference.

                                                          

                                                          We'd like to
                                                          release the
                                                          CERN video in
                                                          tandem with
                                                          SC15. Your
                                                          presence

                                                          and
                                                          presentation
                                                          at the event
                                                          and discussion
                                                          of
                                                          OpenDaylight
                                                          use would be a

                                                          good
                                                          compliment to
                                                          our
                                                          promotional
                                                          efforts
                                                          surrounding
                                                          the video. We
                                                          may

                                                          also want to
                                                          set up some
                                                          press
                                                          briefings at
                                                          that time. Let
                                                          us know if you

                                                          have any
                                                          concerns with
                                                          that approach,
                                                          otherwise
                                                          we'll move
                                                          forward.

                                                          

                                                          As for
                                                          assistance
                                                          with the
                                                          release and
                                                          the packages,
                                                          we'd love to
                                                          help.

                                                          Let us know
                                                          what you need
                                                          and we can put
                                                          you in touch
                                                          with our
                                                          technical

                                                          director, Phil
                                                          Robb, and
                                                          perhaps some
                                                          other members
                                                          of the
                                                          OpenDaylight

                                                          community, to
                                                          get that
                                                          moving.

                                                          

                                                          Thanks,

                                                          Jill

                                                          

                                                          On Tue, Aug
                                                          11, 2015 at
                                                          11:54 PM,
                                                          Harvey Newman
                                                          <newman@...>

                                                          wrote:

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          
 Hi Jill
                                                          and Melissa,

                                                          

                                                          Indeed we are
                                                          preparing for
                                                          SC15 and part
                                                          of our plan is
                                                          to talk

                                                          about our
                                                          experiences
                                                          with
                                                          OpenDaylight.
                                                          Julian and
                                                          Dorian

                                                          just submitted
                                                          an abstract to
                                                          the INDIS
                                                          workshop on
                                                          our

                                                          SC14
                                                          experiences
                                                          and more
                                                          recent
                                                          progress, and
                                                          a paper is

                                                          (very shortly)
                                                          due.

                                                          

                                                          We will also
                                                          mention some
                                                          of the same
                                                          progress in
                                                          the ESnet

                                                          R&D
                                                          workshop
                                                          planned at
                                                          about the same
                                                          time.

                                                          

                                                          Best regards

                                                          Harvey

                                                          

                                                          PS Your
                                                          contact with
                                                          us also is
                                                          opportune in
                                                          that we would
                                                          like

                                                          to present a
                                                          strong case
                                                          for ODL
                                                          Lithium. For
                                                          that to happen

                                                          we would need
                                                          some
                                                          assistance
                                                          with the
                                                          release as it
                                                          continues

                                                          to evolve, and
                                                          for some of
                                                          the packages
                                                          to settle down
                                                          by October

                                                          or earlier. We
                                                          understand
                                                          that other
                                                          users have had
                                                          similar recent

                                                          experience.

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          On 8/12/2015
                                                          3:05 AM, Jill
                                                          Lovato wrote:

                                                          

                                                          Hi Julian and
                                                          Harvey,

                                                          

                                                          Hope you are
                                                          doing well! I
                                                          work with
                                                          Melissa Logan
                                                          on PR for

                                                          OpenDaylight,
                                                          and am
                                                          reaching out
                                                          regarding the
                                                          Supercomputing
                                                          2015

                                                          conference in
                                                          Austin
                                                          November
                                                          15-20: <http://sc15.supercomputing.org/>

                                                          http://sc15.supercomputing.org/

                                                          

                                                          We don't
                                                          currently have
                                                          plans to
                                                          participate in
                                                          the event, but
                                                          are

                                                          thinking it
                                                          might be
                                                          really
                                                          compelling to
                                                          the community
                                                          to talk about
                                                          how

                                                          Caltech is
                                                          using
                                                          OpenDaylight.
                                                          We're going to
                                                          get more
                                                          details on the
                                                          event

                                                          and various
                                                          presentation
                                                          options, but
                                                          wanted to
                                                          reach out now
                                                          to see if

                                                          this is
                                                          something
                                                          you'd be
                                                          interested in;
                                                          we'd love to
                                                          work with you
                                                          on

                                                          something!

                                                          

                                                          Looking
                                                          forward to
                                                          your thoughts
                                                          on this, and
                                                          we'll be in
                                                          touch again

                                                          when we have
                                                          more details.

                                                          

                                                          Thank you,

                                                          Jill

                                                          

                                                          

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                                                          The Linux
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I agree with Junzhuo (Austin). And Azher, if you want to use stable ODL and ALTO, please try 0.3.2-Lithium-SR2. Because it is the latest stable release version. Please check this link: https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/CrossProject:Integration_Group:Controller_Artifacts.

Best,
Jensen


2015-11-01 14:02 GMT+08:00 Junzhuo Austin Wang <wangjunzhuo200@...>:

        
          
          

          

            
Hi Azher,

May I ask which version are you using? Lithium-0.3.2-SNAPSHOT is not a stable version. And Lithium-0.4.0 is not a valid version number. So I assume you're using Beryllium 0.4.0, which is not a stable version either. I suggest you downgrade to a stable version of ODL, say 0.3.2-Lithium-SR2, to solve these problems.

Regards,
Junzhuo

2015-10-31 22:38 GMT+08:00 Azher Mughal <azher@...>:

  
    
  
  

    We recently moved from Lithium 0.3.2 snapshot to Lithium 0.4.0
    snapshot. I added features in order at line 60, while rest by Iosif.

    

    > history

    

       60  feature:install odl-restconf odl-l2switch-switch
    odl-openflowplugin-all odl-mdsal-apidocs odl-dlux-all
    odl-adsal-northbound

       61  features:install -l 

       62  help

       63                         feature:install -l

       64  feature:install -l

       65  feature:install odl-alto-provider

       66  feature:install odl-alto-manager

       67  feature:list

       68  feature:install odl-alto-core 

       69  feature:install odl-alto-manager

       70  feature:install odl-alto-provider

       71  feature:install odl-alto-manager

       72  feature:install odl-alto-northbound

       73  feature:install odl-alto-hosttracker

       74  history 

    

    -Azher

    

    
On 10/31/2015 1:25 AM, Iosif Legrand
      wrote:

    

    

      
      
Hello Jensen,

        

        

        Thank you very much for your email. 

        

        Azher from our group ( in cc ) installed the ODL , and as far as
        know 

        from him, he installed the pre-built Lithium - SR2.

        Azher , please send Jensen the command line history from our 
        installation. 

        

        With Best Regards,

        Iosif 

        

        

        

        

        On 10/31/2015 08:04 AM, Jensen Zhang wrote:

      

      

        
        

          

            
Hi Losif,

              

            

            Thanks for your feedback.

            

            "ALTO:Lithium User Guide" (https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/ALTO:Lithium_User_Guide)
              assumes that you are using OpenDaylight Lithium Release.
            But It seems that you are not using the Lithium Release.
            These modules you list in karaf are in our master branch, so
            the Lithium User Guide is not fit for them.

            

          

          
However, I am not sure how you install your OpenDaylight.
            May I get your command-line history or some logs so that we
            can help you better?

            

          

          
BTW. I think you can get the pre-built version of ODL
            Lithium-SR2 from this link (https://www.opendaylight.org/downloads).

          

          


          

          
Regards,

          

          

            

              

                

                  

                    

                      

                        
Jensen

                        

                      

                    

                  

                

              

            

            

            
2015-10-31 7:29 GMT+08:00 Harvey
              Newman <newman@...>:

              

                
 Much appreciated
                  Phil and All.

                  

                  As you can see we have some very specific questions,

                  and an issue of documentation as well.

                  

                  Thanks for following this through with Iosif

                  

                   (and the other team members cited).

                  

                  Best regards

                  Harvey
                  

                    


                      

                      

                      
On 10/30/2015 4:22 PM, Phil Robb wrote:

                      

                    

                  

                  

                    

                      

                        
Hello Kai & Jensen:
                          


                          

                          
I sent this to Richard yesterday not
                            realizing that the leadership of the project
                            has changed this past week.

                          


                          

                          
The folks at CalTech woking on the Large
                            Hadron Collider are using OpenDaylight to
                            distribute the data they collect to a
                            network of participating universities and
                            they're interested in using ALTO as part of
                            that effort.

                          


                          

                          
However, they are having some issues in
                            getting everything stood up.  Could you guys
                            take a look at the email below and respond
                            to Losif Legrand and team with any insights
                            you may have?

                          


                          

                          
Thanks in advance for your help with
                            this.

                          


                          

                          
Phil.

                          


                            
On Fri, Oct 30,
                              2015 at 9:45 AM, Phil Robb <probb@...>
                              wrote:

                              

                                
Hi Losif:
                                  


                                  

                                  
Thanks for your detailed email
                                    regarding ALTO.  It sounds like
                                    you've got more of these regarding
                                    other ODL projects but let's take
                                    them one at a time.

                                  


                                  

                                  
I've cc-ed the lead of the docs
                                    team (Colin Dixon), a Tech-Writer we
                                    have on contract to help us with our
                                    documentation (Denise [Walters]
                                    Boehm) and the Project Lead for the
                                    ALTO project (Richard Yang). 
                                    Richard should be able to help us
                                    with getting you sorted out
                                    regarding the ALTO implementation in
                                    OpenDaylight-Lithium and Denise and
                                    Colin can take what we learn here to
                                    improve the documentation in the
                                    future.

                                  


                                  

                                  
Further comments inline below...

                                    


                                      
On
                                          Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 3:38 AM,
                                          Iosif Legrand <Iosif.Legrand@...>
                                          wrote:

                                          

                                            

                                              
Hello Phil,

                                                

                                                

                                                Thank you very much for
                                                your email and the links
                                                to the documentation. 

                                                

                                                Unfortunately there are
                                                significant  discrepancy
                                                between  documentation
                                                and 

                                                and the distribution
                                                (Lithium)  we are trying
                                                to use .

                                              

                                            

                                          

                                          


                                          

                                        
                                        
Actually, the problem you
                                          are running into is not due to
                                          stale documentation from a
                                          previous release.  Lithium is
                                          the first release that
                                          contained ALTO.... not that it
                                          makes the situation any
                                          better.

                                        
                                          
 

                                          

                                            

                                              
 

                                                I would like to show you
                                                the example for ALTO:

                                                

                                                From "ALTO:Lithium User
                                                Guide" (https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/ALTO:Lithium_User_Guide)

                                                these are the
                                                instructions to install
                                                ALTO :

                                                

                                                
To enable ALTO, the
                                                  features must be
                                                  installed first. 

                                                
 feature:install odl-alto-provider
 feature:install odl-alto-manager
 feature:install odl-alto-northbound
 feature:install odl-alto-hosttracker

                                              

                                            

                                          

                                          


                                          

                                        
                                        
From what I can see Losif
                                          you are correct.  The page you
                                          reference, and the
                                          documentation in the Lithium
                                          User Guide (page 23) is
                                          incorrect.  I believe the
                                          correct documentation for the
                                          installation of ALTO is in the
                                          Lithium Getting Started Guide
                                          (page 5) with the command
                                          "feature:install
                                          odl-alto-all".  Richard Yang,
                                          please confirm this.

                                        


                                        

                                        
Denise, as you can see, our
                                          problem will often be not that
                                          the correct documentation
                                          isn't available, but that it
                                          is that it is lost in a sea of
                                          incorrect information.

                                        

                                          

                                            
 

                                            

                                              

                                                
 From these 4
                                                  modules the first two
                                                  do not work :

                                                  

                                                  opendaylight-user@root>feature:install


                                                  odl-alto-provider

                                                  Error executing
                                                  command: No feature
                                                  matching
                                                  odl-alto-provider/0.0.0

                                                  opendaylight-user@root>feature:install


                                                  odl-alto-manager

                                                  Error executing
                                                  command: No feature
                                                  matching
                                                  odl-alto-manager/0.0.0

                                                  opendaylight-user@root>feature:install


                                                  odl-alto-northbound

                                                  opendaylight-user@root>feature:install


                                                  odl-alto-hosttracker

                                                  

                                                  If I list all the
                                                  modules in karaf ,
                                                  these are the
                                                  available modules for
                                                  alto :

                                                  

                                                  odl-alto-release                             


                                                  

                                                  odl-alto-core                                


                                                  

                                                  odl-alto-basic                               


                                                  

                                                  odl-alto-extension                           


                                                  

                                                  odl-alto-standard-types                      


                                                  

                                                  odl-alto-resourcepool                        


                                                  

                                                  odl-alto-northbound                          


                                                  

                                                  odl-alto-standard-service-model             


                                                  

                                                  odl-alto-standard-northbound-route          


                                                  

                                                  odl-alto-standard-resource-translator        


                                                  

                                                  odl-alto-ird                                


                                                  

                                                  odl-alto-manual-maps                      


                                                  

                                                  odl-alto-hosttracker                         


                                                  

                                                  odl-alto-nonstandard-types                  


                                                  

                                                  odl-alto-nonstandard-service-model           


                                                  

                                                  odl-alto-nonstandard-northbound-route        


                                                  

                                                  odl-messaging4transport-api                  


                                                  

                                                  odl-messaging4transport 

                                                  

                                                  

                                                  There  are 18 ALTO
                                                  modules . 

                                                

                                              

                                            

                                            


                                            

                                          

                                        

                                        
This will not be uncommon
                                          for modules within
                                          OpenDaylight's Karaf
                                          distribution Losif.  Many
                                          projects create various karaf
                                          bundles for their own purposes
                                          in a finer granularity than is
                                          significant to the end user. 
                                          We have "user facing karaf
                                          features" that aggregate
                                          multiple smaller bundles into
                                          a collection that is exposed
                                          and documented to the end
                                          user.  I have a feeling, in
                                          the beginning, the ALTO team
                                          thought that the four user
                                          facing features made sense,
                                          but at some point along the
                                          way changed to just using
                                          "alto-all" to fully install
                                          the full ALTO functionality. 
                                          Richard, feel free to correct
                                          me or add additional insights.

                                        
                                          
 

                                          

                                            

                                              
 

                                                The documentation
                                                describes only the  ALTO
                                                -manager but this 

                                                modules does not exist
                                                anymore in the
                                                distribution. 

                                                All these new modules 
                                                are totally
                                                undocumented. 

                                                

                                                After installing these
                                                new modules I tried to
                                                only 

                                                example on the
                                                documentation page using
                                                the apidoc 

                                                explorer and it does not
                                                seem to work. 

                                                I also tried using curl
                                                on cli. 

                                              

                                            

                                          

                                          


                                          

                                        
                                        
I would have expected that
                                          if you loaded all the ALTO
                                          features, that was equivalent
                                          to installing "alto-all". 
                                          Richard, can you or someone
                                          from the ALTO project help
                                          Losif and his team get ALTO up
                                          and running in their
                                          environment?

                                        
                                          
 

                                          

                                            

                                              
 

                                                Changing the name of the
                                                modules and adding many
                                                

                                                new undocumented modules
                                                for the same 

                                                distribution ( Lithium)
                                                makes it really
                                                difficult to use it .

                                                

                                                

                                                

                                                In my option, it will be
                                                very  useful  for the
                                                users to have a set 

                                                of simple / realistic
                                                examples in how to use
                                                these modules. 

                                              

                                            

                                          

                                          


                                          

                                        
                                        
Basic/simple examples would
                                          clearly help.  Thanks for the
                                          suggstion Losif.  Denise, lets
                                          see if we can get these as we
                                          do per-project interviews in
                                          the coming weeks.

                                        


                                        

                                        
Best,

                                        


                                        

                                        
Phil.

                                        

                                          

                                            
 

                                            

                                              

                                                
 

                                                  

                                                  Thanks a lot for all
                                                  your help.

                                                  

                                                  

                                                  Best Regards,

                                                  Iosif 

                                                  

                                                    
 

                                                      

                                                      

                                                      

                                                      

                                                      

                                                      On 10/29/2015
                                                      02:22 AM, Phil
                                                      Robb wrote:

                                                    

                                                  

                                                

                                                

                                                  

                                                    

                                                      
Hello

                                                        Everyone:
                                                        


                                                        

                                                        
My
                                                          apologies for
                                                          missing this
                                                          thread
                                                          entirely until
                                                          now.  It's
                                                          totally my
                                                          bad. 

                                                        


                                                        

                                                        
I'd like to
                                                          start with a
                                                          level set so
                                                          that I know
                                                          where everyone
                                                          is in getting
                                                          up to speed.

                                                        


                                                        

                                                        
First off,
                                                          yes trying to
                                                          search for
                                                          documentation
                                                          via google is
                                                          particularly
                                                          painful for
                                                          OpenDaylight. 
                                                          The Hydrogen
                                                          release of the
                                                          documentation
                                                          was
                                                          implemented on
                                                          the wiki but
                                                          for most of
                                                          Helium and all
                                                          of Lithium the
                                                          user facing
                                                          documentation
                                                          has been
                                                          compiled into
                                                          PDF documents
                                                          on the
                                                          OpenDaylight.org
                                                          site.  So the
                                                          best curated
                                                          documentation
                                                          we have is in
                                                          our pdf based
                                                          documents on
                                                          the
                                                          OpenDaylight.org
                                                          site and that
                                                          isn't crawled
                                                          by google (but
                                                          the very stale
                                                          wiki pages
                                                          are).  Are you
                                                          all familiar
                                                          with the
                                                          documents
                                                          produced and
                                                          available for
                                                          download
                                                          here?: https://www.opendaylight.org/downloads

                                                        


                                                        

                                                        
Second, did
                                                          anyone get the
                                                          chance to
                                                          attend the ODL
                                                          Summit and
                                                          take the
                                                          day-long
                                                          tutorial given
                                                          by Ed Warnicke
                                                          on "A Grand
                                                          Tour Of Coding
                                                          For
                                                          OpenDaylight"? 
                                                          For anyone
                                                          that did not,
                                                          it will be
                                                          helpful to go
                                                          through that
                                                          material.  We
                                                          have a wiki
                                                          page that
                                                          includes the
                                                          16 labs done
                                                          in the
                                                          tutorial along
                                                          with the
                                                          slides
                                                          presented, the
                                                          USB image that
                                                          was
                                                          distributed
                                                          and used
                                                          throughout the
                                                          tutorial and
                                                          youtube video
                                                          recordings
                                                          that comprise
                                                          the day-long
                                                          event.  At the
                                                          Summit they
                                                          only got
                                                          through 13 of
                                                          the 16
                                                          tutorials so
                                                          that is all
                                                          you'll see on
                                                          the
                                                          recording. 
                                                          I'm working
                                                          with Ed to
                                                          have him
                                                          record the
                                                          last 3 labs
                                                          for
                                                          completeness
                                                          but that is
                                                          not done yet. 
                                                          If you watch
                                                          this and have
                                                          questions,
                                                          please reach
                                                          out to Ed on
                                                          irc (he's a
                                                          bit
                                                          hit-or-miss
                                                          via email). 
                                                          Ed's irc
                                                          handle is
                                                          "edwarnicke"

                                                        


                                                        

                                                        
Next, the
                                                          best resource
                                                          for each
                                                          project is
                                                          their
                                                          individual
                                                          project page
                                                          on the wiki. 
                                                          Each project
                                                          is required to
                                                          have one and
                                                          keep it up to
                                                          date.  Also on
                                                          it is a
                                                          project "Fact
                                                          Box" that
                                                          contains the
                                                          contact
                                                          information
                                                          for the
                                                          project lead
                                                          and all
                                                          committers as
                                                          well as their
                                                          mailing list,
                                                          irc channel,
                                                          meeting
                                                          information
                                                          etc.  In
                                                          addition each
                                                          page often
                                                          contains
                                                          pointers to
                                                          their most
                                                          recent wiki
                                                          page
                                                          documentation
                                                          and any other
                                                          relevant
                                                          resources. 
                                                          The full list
                                                          is here: https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Project_list
                                                          and the
                                                          specific
                                                          projects in
                                                          question are
                                                          here:

                                                        
                                                        
                                                        
                                                        
                                                        
                                                        
                                                        


                                                        

                                                        
Also note,
                                                          that if you
                                                          are ever
                                                          concerned that
                                                          something
                                                          might be out
                                                          of date, just
                                                          click on the
                                                          "view history"
                                                          tab at the top
                                                          of the wiki
                                                          page.  That
                                                          will show you
                                                          when the most
                                                          recent changes
                                                          were made
                                                          giving you
                                                          some level of
                                                          confidence on
                                                          the
                                                          "freshness" of
                                                          the material.

                                                        


                                                        

                                                        
If you've
                                                          not yet looked
                                                          through the
                                                          above material
                                                          please do so
                                                          and let me
                                                          know if it
                                                          helps.  The
                                                          next step will
                                                          be to reach
                                                          out to the
                                                          Project leads
                                                          for each of
                                                          the above
                                                          either on the
                                                          mailing lists
                                                          or irc
                                                          channels with
                                                          your specific
                                                          questions. 
                                                          What the
                                                          community
                                                          lacks in
                                                          documentation
                                                          (and we know
                                                          we lack in
                                                          documentation)
                                                          we make up for
                                                          in timely
                                                          responses to
                                                          your
                                                          questions...
                                                          unless your
                                                          request gets
                                                          lost in my
                                                          inbox... but
                                                          I've already
                                                          covered that
                                                          above in this
                                                          email... and
                                                          again, sorry
                                                          about that.

                                                        


                                                        

                                                        
Best,

                                                        


                                                        

                                                        
Phil.

                                                        


                                                        

                                                        


                                                        

                                                        

                                                          
On

                                                          Thu, Sep 24,
                                                          2015 at 9:42
                                                          PM, Iosif
                                                          Legrand <Iosif.Legrand@...>
                                                          wrote:

                                                          
Hello



                                                          Melissa,

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          Thank you very
                                                          much for your
                                                          email.

                                                          

                                                          I would  like
                                                          to learn more
                                                          about using
                                                          Yang tools

                                                          in the ODL
                                                          framework to
                                                          setup and
                                                          control  flows
                                                          .

                                                          I saw many
                                                          presentations
                                                          describing the
                                                          power and

                                                          flexibility
                                                          for this
                                                          approach , but
                                                          is  hard to
                                                          find

                                                          documentation
                                                          and 
                                                          simple/realistic
                                                          examples in
                                                          using it .

                                                          

                                                          I am also
                                                          interested to
                                                          learn using
                                                          ALTO, LACP,
                                                          Opflex, Intend
                                                          .

                                                          

                                                          A significant
                                                          part of the
                                                          on-line
                                                          documentation

                                                          (using web
                                                          search
                                                          engines) or
                                                          examples  is
                                                          for Hydrogen
                                                          or Helium

                                                          releases and 
                                                           is not
                                                          updated for
                                                          the Lithium
                                                          version.

                                                          In the doc
                                                          wiki pages
                                                          there are many
                                                          broken links
                                                          or links to

                                                          old version
                                                          for the
                                                          documentation.

                                                          

                                                          I think that
                                                          good
                                                          documentation
                                                          is very
                                                          important for
                                                          such a complex

                                                          project.  I
                                                          also believe
                                                          that having 
                                                          simple 
                                                          examples in
                                                          using

                                                          ODL framework
                                                          for realistic
                                                          problems /
                                                          configuration
                                                          will help a

                                                          lot the user
                                                          community .

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          Best Regards,

                                                          ioji
                                                          

                                                          


                                                          

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          On 9/23/2015
                                                          7:06 PM,
                                                          Melissa Logan
                                                          wrote:

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          
 Hi
                                                          Losif,

                                                          

                                                          Thank you for
                                                          that feedback.
                                                          The good news
                                                          is that we'll
                                                          soon have a

                                                          resource who
                                                          will be
                                                          updating key
                                                          documentation,
                                                          but it may
                                                          take some time

                                                          before you see
                                                          the results.
                                                          Which projects
                                                          specifically
                                                          do you need
                                                          help

                                                          with? We may
                                                          be able to
                                                          find community
                                                          members who
                                                          can help.

                                                          

                                                          Melissa

                                                          

                                                          On Wed, Sep
                                                          23, 2015 at
                                                          9:15 AM, Iosif
                                                          Legrand <Iosif.Legrand@...>

                                                          wrote:

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          
 Hello ,

                                                          

                                                          I am trying to
                                                          learn it and
                                                          use it in our
                                                          environment.

                                                          There are
                                                          several new
                                                          interesting
                                                          projects /
                                                          modules in
                                                          Lithium

                                                          but is no 
                                                          appropriate
                                                          documentation
                                                          and examples
                                                          in how to use
                                                          them.

                                                          This is most
                                                          frustrating
                                                          part .

                                                          

                                                          Regards,

                                                          Iosif

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          On 09/23/2015
                                                          04:57 PM,
                                                          Harvey Newman
                                                          wrote:

                                                          

                                                          Iosif is
                                                          studying
                                                          Lithium and
                                                          can comment.

                                                          Harvey

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          On 9/23/2015
                                                          7:10 AM,
                                                          Melissa Logan
                                                          wrote:

                                                          

                                                          OK great! We
                                                          will be in
                                                          touch with the
                                                          materials for
                                                          input.

                                                          

                                                          With regard to
                                                          Lithium, how
                                                          is that
                                                          progressing
                                                          for you?

                                                          On Sep 23,
                                                          2015 6:50 AM,
                                                          "Harvey
                                                          Newman" <newman@...>



                                                          wrote:

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          
   Dear
                                                          Melissa,

                                                          

                                                          I am open to
                                                          this and would
                                                          be glad to
                                                          follow this up
                                                          with you.

                                                          

                                                          Regards

                                                          Harvey

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          On 9/22/2015
                                                          8:50 PM,
                                                          Melissa Logan
                                                          wrote:

                                                          

                                                          Hi Harvey,
                                                          Julian and
                                                          Dorian!

                                                          

                                                          I hope you're
                                                          all doing
                                                          well. Have you
                                                          found any dark
                                                          matter yet, or

                                                          hints of
                                                          supersymmetry?

                                                          

                                                          With regard to
                                                          SC15, we
                                                          wondered if
                                                          you would you
                                                          have the
                                                          ability to

                                                          debut or show
                                                          the video we
                                                          created with
                                                          you folks? We
                                                          thought that
                                                          might be

                                                          a perfect
                                                          venue to debut
                                                          it (i.e. if
                                                          you have a TV
                                                          in your booth,
                                                          or

                                                          perhaps during
                                                          a paper
                                                          presentation
                                                          if that makes
                                                          sense?) while
                                                          we would

                                                          publish it on
                                                          our blog,
                                                          social media,
                                                          newsletter
                                                          etc. What do
                                                          you think?

                                                          

                                                          We could even
                                                          perhaps
                                                          schedule
                                                          interviews
                                                          with a couple
                                                          HPC reporters

                                                          (e.g. HPCwire,
                                                          ZDNet) who
                                                          might be
                                                          interested in
                                                          hearing about
                                                          your

                                                          experiences,
                                                          as well as
                                                          ODL's
                                                          perspective.
                                                          Would you be
                                                          open to that?
                                                          If so

                                                          we can get the
                                                          video
                                                          finalized by
                                                          early October
                                                          and start
                                                          reaching out
                                                          to

                                                          reporters
                                                          around mid to
                                                          late October
                                                          to pitch.

                                                          

                                                          Melissa

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          On Fri, Aug
                                                          21, 2015 at
                                                          9:55 AM, Jill
                                                          Lovato <

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          <jlovato@...>jlovato@...>



                                                          wrote:

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          
 Hi
                                                          Harvey,

                                                          

                                                          That's great
                                                          news!  Please
                                                          keep us
                                                          updated on
                                                          your
                                                          submission and
                                                          paper,

                                                          and feel free
                                                          to pass along
                                                          both the
                                                          abstract you
                                                          submitted as
                                                          well as the

                                                          paper for
                                                          reference.

                                                          

                                                          We'd like to
                                                          release the
                                                          CERN video in
                                                          tandem with
                                                          SC15. Your
                                                          presence

                                                          and
                                                          presentation
                                                          at the event
                                                          and discussion
                                                          of
                                                          OpenDaylight
                                                          use would be a

                                                          good
                                                          compliment to
                                                          our
                                                          promotional
                                                          efforts
                                                          surrounding
                                                          the video. We
                                                          may

                                                          also want to
                                                          set up some
                                                          press
                                                          briefings at
                                                          that time. Let
                                                          us know if you

                                                          have any
                                                          concerns with
                                                          that approach,
                                                          otherwise
                                                          we'll move
                                                          forward.

                                                          

                                                          As for
                                                          assistance
                                                          with the
                                                          release and
                                                          the packages,
                                                          we'd love to
                                                          help.

                                                          Let us know
                                                          what you need
                                                          and we can put
                                                          you in touch
                                                          with our
                                                          technical

                                                          director, Phil
                                                          Robb, and
                                                          perhaps some
                                                          other members
                                                          of the
                                                          OpenDaylight

                                                          community, to
                                                          get that
                                                          moving.

                                                          

                                                          Thanks,

                                                          Jill

                                                          

                                                          On Tue, Aug
                                                          11, 2015 at
                                                          11:54 PM,
                                                          Harvey Newman
                                                          <newman@...>

                                                          wrote:

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          
 Hi Jill
                                                          and Melissa,

                                                          

                                                          Indeed we are
                                                          preparing for
                                                          SC15 and part
                                                          of our plan is
                                                          to talk

                                                          about our
                                                          experiences
                                                          with
                                                          OpenDaylight.
                                                          Julian and
                                                          Dorian

                                                          just submitted
                                                          an abstract to
                                                          the INDIS
                                                          workshop on
                                                          our

                                                          SC14
                                                          experiences
                                                          and more
                                                          recent
                                                          progress, and
                                                          a paper is

                                                          (very shortly)
                                                          due.

                                                          

                                                          We will also
                                                          mention some
                                                          of the same
                                                          progress in
                                                          the ESnet

                                                          R&D
                                                          workshop
                                                          planned at
                                                          about the same
                                                          time.

                                                          

                                                          Best regards

                                                          Harvey

                                                          

                                                          PS Your
                                                          contact with
                                                          us also is
                                                          opportune in
                                                          that we would
                                                          like

                                                          to present a
                                                          strong case
                                                          for ODL
                                                          Lithium. For
                                                          that to happen

                                                          we would need
                                                          some
                                                          assistance
                                                          with the
                                                          release as it
                                                          continues

                                                          to evolve, and
                                                          for some of
                                                          the packages
                                                          to settle down
                                                          by October

                                                          or earlier. We
                                                          understand
                                                          that other
                                                          users have had
                                                          similar recent

                                                          experience.

                                                          

                                                          

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                                                          3:05 AM, Jill
                                                          Lovato wrote:

                                                          

                                                          Hi Julian and
                                                          Harvey,

                                                          

                                                          Hope you are
                                                          doing well! I
                                                          work with
                                                          Melissa Logan
                                                          on PR for

                                                          OpenDaylight,
                                                          and am
                                                          reaching out
                                                          regarding the
                                                          Supercomputing
                                                          2015

                                                          conference in
                                                          Austin
                                                          November
                                                          15-20: <http://sc15.supercomputing.org/>

                                                          http://sc15.supercomputing.org/

                                                          

                                                          We don't
                                                          currently have
                                                          plans to
                                                          participate in
                                                          the event, but
                                                          are

                                                          thinking it
                                                          might be
                                                          really
                                                          compelling to
                                                          the community
                                                          to talk about
                                                          how

                                                          Caltech is
                                                          using
                                                          OpenDaylight.
                                                          We're going to
                                                          get more
                                                          details on the
                                                          event

                                                          and various
                                                          presentation
                                                          options, but
                                                          wanted to
                                                          reach out now
                                                          to see if

                                                          this is
                                                          something
                                                          you'd be
                                                          interested in;
                                                          we'd love to
                                                          work with you
                                                          on

                                                          something!

                                                          

                                                          Looking
                                                          forward to
                                                          your thoughts
                                                          on this, and
                                                          we'll be in
                                                          touch again

                                                          when we have
                                                          more details.

                                                          

                                                          Thank you,

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Azher, all,

First sorry for the delay in response---I was on the road until early today. 

Let me start by saying that it is wonderful that you are looking into ALTO in the context of your wonderful project. The feedback from you is great for the ALTO project to improve. At the same time, we apology for the inaccuracies and hence the issues caused. 

Here is my proposal to move forward:
1. We will first go over the issues discovered by you in your email, one by one, to verify and proposal fixes; please give us two days;
2. After 1., we want to schedule a meet up with you to go over the issues with you and work together; I believe that no one is more motivated than us to fix the issues;
3. After 2., we will send a summary to Phil and others on what both ALTO and other ODL project can learn to improve.

How does the preceding sound?
Richard

        
          
          

          

            

On Sunday, November 1, 2015, Jensen Zhang <jingxuan.n.zhang@...> wrote:
I agree with Junzhuo (Austin). And Azher, if you want to use stable ODL and ALTO, please try 0.3.2-Lithium-SR2. Because it is the latest stable release version. Please check this link: https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/CrossProject:Integration_Group:Controller_Artifacts.

Best,
Jensen


2015-11-01 14:02 GMT+08:00 Junzhuo Austin Wang <wangjunzhuo200@...>:
Hi Azher,

May I ask which version are you using? Lithium-0.3.2-SNAPSHOT is not a stable version. And Lithium-0.4.0 is not a valid version number. So I assume you're using Beryllium 0.4.0, which is not a stable version either. I suggest you downgrade to a stable version of ODL, say 0.3.2-Lithium-SR2, to solve these problems.

Regards,
Junzhuo

2015-10-31 22:38 GMT+08:00 Azher Mughal <azher@...>:

  
    
  
  

    We recently moved from Lithium 0.3.2 snapshot to Lithium 0.4.0
    snapshot. I added features in order at line 60, while rest by Iosif.

    

    > history

    

       60  feature:install odl-restconf odl-l2switch-switch
    odl-openflowplugin-all odl-mdsal-apidocs odl-dlux-all
    odl-adsal-northbound

       61  features:install -l 

       62  help

       63                         feature:install -l

       64  feature:install -l

       65  feature:install odl-alto-provider

       66  feature:install odl-alto-manager

       67  feature:list

       68  feature:install odl-alto-core 

       69  feature:install odl-alto-manager

       70  feature:install odl-alto-provider

       71  feature:install odl-alto-manager

       72  feature:install odl-alto-northbound

       73  feature:install odl-alto-hosttracker

       74  history 

    

    -Azher

    

    
On 10/31/2015 1:25 AM, Iosif Legrand
      wrote:

    

    

      
      
Hello Jensen,

        

        

        Thank you very much for your email. 

        

        Azher from our group ( in cc ) installed the ODL , and as far as
        know 

        from him, he installed the pre-built Lithium - SR2.

        Azher , please send Jensen the command line history from our 
        installation. 

        

        With Best Regards,

        Iosif 

        

        

        

        

        On 10/31/2015 08:04 AM, Jensen Zhang wrote:

      

      

        
        

          

            
Hi Losif,

              

            

            Thanks for your feedback.

            

            "ALTO:Lithium User Guide" (https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/ALTO:Lithium_User_Guide)
              assumes that you are using OpenDaylight Lithium Release.
            But It seems that you are not using the Lithium Release.
            These modules you list in karaf are in our master branch, so
            the Lithium User Guide is not fit for them.

            

          

          
However, I am not sure how you install your OpenDaylight.
            May I get your command-line history or some logs so that we
            can help you better?

            

          

          
BTW. I think you can get the pre-built version of ODL
            Lithium-SR2 from this link (https://www.opendaylight.org/downloads).

          

          


          

          
Regards,

          

          

            

              

                

                  

                    

                      

                        
Jensen

                        

                      

                    

                  

                

              

            

            

            
2015-10-31 7:29 GMT+08:00 Harvey
              Newman <newman@...>:

              

                
 Much appreciated
                  Phil and All.

                  

                  As you can see we have some very specific questions,

                  and an issue of documentation as well.

                  

                  Thanks for following this through with Iosif

                  

                   (and the other team members cited).

                  

                  Best regards

                  Harvey
                  

                    


                      

                      

                      
On 10/30/2015 4:22 PM, Phil Robb wrote:

                      

                    

                  

                  

                    

                      

                        
Hello Kai & Jensen:
                          


                          

                          
I sent this to Richard yesterday not
                            realizing that the leadership of the project
                            has changed this past week.

                          


                          

                          
The folks at CalTech woking on the Large
                            Hadron Collider are using OpenDaylight to
                            distribute the data they collect to a
                            network of participating universities and
                            they're interested in using ALTO as part of
                            that effort.

                          


                          

                          
However, they are having some issues in
                            getting everything stood up.  Could you guys
                            take a look at the email below and respond
                            to Losif Legrand and team with any insights
                            you may have?

                          


                          

                          
Thanks in advance for your help with
                            this.

                          


                          

                          
Phil.

                          


                            
On Fri, Oct 30,
                              2015 at 9:45 AM, Phil Robb <probb@...>
                              wrote:

                              

                                
Hi Losif:
                                  


                                  

                                  
Thanks for your detailed email
                                    regarding ALTO.  It sounds like
                                    you've got more of these regarding
                                    other ODL projects but let's take
                                    them one at a time.

                                  


                                  

                                  
I've cc-ed the lead of the docs
                                    team (Colin Dixon), a Tech-Writer we
                                    have on contract to help us with our
                                    documentation (Denise [Walters]
                                    Boehm) and the Project Lead for the
                                    ALTO project (Richard Yang). 
                                    Richard should be able to help us
                                    with getting you sorted out
                                    regarding the ALTO implementation in
                                    OpenDaylight-Lithium and Denise and
                                    Colin can take what we learn here to
                                    improve the documentation in the
                                    future.

                                  


                                  

                                  
Further comments inline below...

                                    


                                      
On
                                          Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 3:38 AM,
                                          Iosif Legrand <Iosif.Legrand@...>
                                          wrote:

                                          

                                            

                                              
Hello Phil,

                                                

                                                

                                                Thank you very much for
                                                your email and the links
                                                to the documentation. 

                                                

                                                Unfortunately there are
                                                significant  discrepancy
                                                between  documentation
                                                and 

                                                and the distribution
                                                (Lithium)  we are trying
                                                to use .

                                              

                                            

                                          

                                          


                                          

                                        
                                        
Actually, the problem you
                                          are running into is not due to
                                          stale documentation from a
                                          previous release.  Lithium is
                                          the first release that
                                          contained ALTO.... not that it
                                          makes the situation any
                                          better.

                                        
                                          
 

                                          

                                            

                                              
 

                                                I would like to show you
                                                the example for ALTO:

                                                

                                                From "ALTO:Lithium User
                                                Guide" (https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/ALTO:Lithium_User_Guide)

                                                these are the
                                                instructions to install
                                                ALTO :

                                                

                                                
To enable ALTO, the
                                                  features must be
                                                  installed first. 

                                                
 feature:install odl-alto-provider
 feature:install odl-alto-manager
 feature:install odl-alto-northbound
 feature:install odl-alto-hosttracker

                                              

                                            

                                          

                                          


                                          

                                        
                                        
From what I can see Losif
                                          you are correct.  The page you
                                          reference, and the
                                          documentation in the Lithium
                                          User Guide (page 23) is
                                          incorrect.  I believe the
                                          correct documentation for the
                                          installation of ALTO is in the
                                          Lithium Getting Started Guide
                                          (page 5) with the command
                                          "feature:install
                                          odl-alto-all".  Richard Yang,
                                          please confirm this.

                                        


                                        

                                        
Denise, as you can see, our
                                          problem will often be not that
                                          the correct documentation
                                          isn't available, but that it
                                          is that it is lost in a sea of
                                          incorrect information.

                                        

                                          

                                            
 

                                            

                                              

                                                
 From these 4
                                                  modules the first two
                                                  do not work :

                                                  

                                                  opendaylight-user@root>feature:install


                                                  odl-alto-provider

                                                  Error executing
                                                  command: No feature
                                                  matching
                                                  odl-alto-provider/0.0.0

                                                  opendaylight-user@root>feature:install


                                                  odl-alto-manager

                                                  Error executing
                                                  command: No feature
                                                  matching
                                                  odl-alto-manager/0.0.0

                                                  opendaylight-user@root>feature:install


                                                  odl-alto-northbound

                                                  opendaylight-user@root>feature:install


                                                  odl-alto-hosttracker

                                                  

                                                  If I list all the
                                                  modules in karaf ,
                                                  these are the
                                                  available modules for
                                                  alto :

                                                  

                                                  odl-alto-release                             


                                                  

                                                  odl-alto-core                                


                                                  

                                                  odl-alto-basic                               


                                                  

                                                  odl-alto-extension                           


                                                  

                                                  odl-alto-standard-types                      


                                                  

                                                  odl-alto-resourcepool                        


                                                  

                                                  odl-alto-northbound                          


                                                  

                                                  odl-alto-standard-service-model             


                                                  

                                                  odl-alto-standard-northbound-route          


                                                  

                                                  odl-alto-standard-resource-translator        


                                                  

                                                  odl-alto-ird                                


                                                  

                                                  odl-alto-manual-maps                      


                                                  

                                                  odl-alto-hosttracker                         


                                                  

                                                  odl-alto-nonstandard-types                  


                                                  

                                                  odl-alto-nonstandard-service-model           


                                                  

                                                  odl-alto-nonstandard-northbound-route        


                                                  

                                                  odl-messaging4transport-api                  


                                                  

                                                  odl-messaging4transport 

                                                  

                                                  

                                                  There  are 18 ALTO
                                                  modules . 

                                                

                                              

                                            

                                            


                                            

                                          

                                        

                                        
This will not be uncommon
                                          for modules within
                                          OpenDaylight's Karaf
                                          distribution Losif.  Many
                                          projects create various karaf
                                          bundles for their own purposes
                                          in a finer granularity than is
                                          significant to the end user. 
                                          We have "user facing karaf
                                          features" that aggregate
                                          multiple smaller bundles into
                                          a collection that is exposed
                                          and documented to the end
                                          user.  I have a feeling, in
                                          the beginning, the ALTO team
                                          thought that the four user
                                          facing features made sense,
                                          but at some point along the
                                          way changed to just using
                                          "alto-all" to fully install
                                          the full ALTO functionality. 
                                          Richard, feel free to correct
                                          me or add additional insights.

                                        
                                          
 

                                          

                                            

                                              
 

                                                The documentation
                                                describes only the  ALTO
                                                -manager but this 

                                                modules does not exist
                                                anymore in the
                                                distribution. 

                                                All these new modules 
                                                are totally
                                                undocumented. 

                                                

                                                After installing these
                                                new modules I tried to
                                                only 

                                                example on the
                                                documentation page using
                                                the apidoc 

                                                explorer and it does not
                                                seem to work. 

                                                I also tried using curl
                                                on cli. 

                                              

                                            

                                          

                                          


                                          

                                        
                                        
I would have expected that
                                          if you loaded all the ALTO
                                          features, that was equivalent
                                          to installing "alto-all". 
                                          Richard, can you or someone
                                          from the ALTO project help
                                          Losif and his team get ALTO up
                                          and running in their
                                          environment?

                                        
                                          
 

                                          

                                            

                                              
 

                                                Changing the name of the
                                                modules and adding many
                                                

                                                new undocumented modules
                                                for the same 

                                                distribution ( Lithium)
                                                makes it really
                                                difficult to use it .

                                                

                                                

                                                

                                                In my option, it will be
                                                very  useful  for the
                                                users to have a set 

                                                of simple / realistic
                                                examples in how to use
                                                these modules. 

                                              

                                            

                                          

                                          


                                          

                                        
                                        
Basic/simple examples would
                                          clearly help.  Thanks for the
                                          suggstion Losif.  Denise, lets
                                          see if we can get these as we
                                          do per-project interviews in
                                          the coming weeks.

                                        


                                        

                                        
Best,

                                        


                                        

                                        
Phil.

                                        

                                          

                                            
 

                                            

                                              

                                                
 

                                                  

                                                  Thanks a lot for all
                                                  your help.

                                                  

                                                  

                                                  Best Regards,

                                                  Iosif 

                                                  

                                                    
 

                                                      

                                                      

                                                      

                                                      

                                                      

                                                      On 10/29/2015
                                                      02:22 AM, Phil
                                                      Robb wrote:

                                                    

                                                  

                                                

                                                

                                                  

                                                    

                                                      
Hello

                                                        Everyone:
                                                        


                                                        

                                                        
My
                                                          apologies for
                                                          missing this
                                                          thread
                                                          entirely until
                                                          now.  It's
                                                          totally my
                                                          bad. 

                                                        


                                                        

                                                        
I'd like to
                                                          start with a
                                                          level set so
                                                          that I know
                                                          where everyone
                                                          is in getting
                                                          up to speed.

                                                        


                                                        

                                                        
First off,
                                                          yes trying to
                                                          search for
                                                          documentation
                                                          via google is
                                                          particularly
                                                          painful for
                                                          OpenDaylight. 
                                                          The Hydrogen
                                                          release of the
                                                          documentation
                                                          was
                                                          implemented on
                                                          the wiki but
                                                          for most of
                                                          Helium and all
                                                          of Lithium the
                                                          user facing
                                                          documentation
                                                          has been
                                                          compiled into
                                                          PDF documents
                                                          on the
                                                          OpenDaylight.org
                                                          site.  So the
                                                          best curated
                                                          documentation
                                                          we have is in
                                                          our pdf based
                                                          documents on
                                                          the
                                                          OpenDaylight.org
                                                          site and that
                                                          isn't crawled
                                                          by google (but
                                                          the very stale
                                                          wiki pages
                                                          are).  Are you
                                                          all familiar
                                                          with the
                                                          documents
                                                          produced and
                                                          available for
                                                          download
                                                          here?: https://www.opendaylight.org/downloads

                                                        


                                                        

                                                        
Second, did
                                                          anyone get the
                                                          chance to
                                                          attend the ODL
                                                          Summit and
                                                          take the
                                                          day-long
                                                          tutorial given
                                                          by Ed Warnicke
                                                          on "A Grand
                                                          Tour Of Coding
                                                          For
                                                          OpenDaylight"? 
                                                          For anyone
                                                          that did not,
                                                          it will be
                                                          helpful to go
                                                          through that
                                                          material.  We
                                                          have a wiki
                                                          page that
                                                          includes the
                                                          16 labs done
                                                          in the
                                                          tutorial along
                                                          with the
                                                          slides
                                                          presented, the
                                                          USB image that
                                                          was
                                                          distributed
                                                          and used
                                                          throughout the
                                                          tutorial and
                                                          youtube video
                                                          recordings
                                                          that comprise
                                                          the day-long
                                                          event.  At the
                                                          Summit they
                                                          only got
                                                          through 13 of
                                                          the 16
                                                          tutorials so
                                                          that is all
                                                          you'll see on
                                                          the
                                                          recording. 
                                                          I'm working
                                                          with Ed to
                                                          have him
                                                          record the
                                                          last 3 labs
                                                          for
                                                          completeness
                                                          but that is
                                                          not done yet. 
                                                          If you watch
                                                          this and have
                                                          questions,
                                                          please reach
                                                          out to Ed on
                                                          irc (he's a
                                                          bit
                                                          hit-or-miss
                                                          via email). 
                                                          Ed's irc
                                                          handle is
                                                          "edwarnicke"

                                                        


                                                        

                                                        
Next, the
                                                          best resource
                                                          for each
                                                          project is
                                                          their
                                                          individual
                                                          project page
                                                          on the wiki. 
                                                          Each project
                                                          is required to
                                                          have one and
                                                          keep it up to
                                                          date.  Also on
                                                          it is a
                                                          project "Fact
                                                          Box" that
                                                          contains the
                                                          contact
                                                          information
                                                          for the
                                                          project lead
                                                          and all
                                                          committers as
                                                          well as their
                                                          mailing list,
                                                          irc channel,
                                                          meeting
                                                          information
                                                          etc.  In
                                                          addition each
                                                          page often
                                                          contains
                                                          pointers to
                                                          their most
                                                          recent wiki
                                                          page
                                                          documentation
                                                          and any other
                                                          relevant
                                                          resources. 
                                                          The full list
                                                          is here: https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Project_list
                                                          and the
                                                          specific
                                                          projects in
                                                          question are
                                                          here:

                                                        
                                                        
                                                        
                                                        
                                                        
                                                        
                                                        


                                                        

                                                        
Also note,
                                                          that if you
                                                          are ever
                                                          concerned that
                                                          something
                                                          might be out
                                                          of date, just
                                                          click on the
                                                          "view history"
                                                          tab at the top
                                                          of the wiki
                                                          page.  That
                                                          will show you
                                                          when the most
                                                          recent changes
                                                          were made
                                                          giving you
                                                          some level of
                                                          confidence on
                                                          the
                                                          "freshness" of
                                                          the material.

                                                        


                                                        

                                                        
If you've
                                                          not yet looked
                                                          through the
                                                          above material
                                                          please do so
                                                          and let me
                                                          know if it
                                                          helps.  The
                                                          next step will
                                                          be to reach
                                                          out to the
                                                          Project leads
                                                          for each of
                                                          the above
                                                          either on the
                                                          mailing lists
                                                          or irc
                                                          channels with
                                                          your specific
                                                          questions. 
                                                          What the
                                                          community
                                                          lacks in
                                                          documentation
                                                          (and we know
                                                          we lack in
                                                          documentation)
                                                          we make up for
                                                          in timely
                                                          responses to
                                                          your
                                                          questions...
                                                          unless your
                                                          request gets
                                                          lost in my
                                                          inbox... but
                                                          I've already
                                                          covered that
                                                          above in this
                                                          email... and
                                                          again, sorry
                                                          about that.

                                                        


                                                        

                                                        
Best,

                                                        


                                                        

                                                        
Phil.

                                                        


                                                        

                                                        


                                                        

                                                        

                                                          
On

                                                          Thu, Sep 24,
                                                          2015 at 9:42
                                                          PM, Iosif
                                                          Legrand <Iosif.Legrand@...>
                                                          wrote:

                                                          
Hello



                                                          Melissa,

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          Thank you very
                                                          much for your
                                                          email.

                                                          

                                                          I would  like
                                                          to learn more
                                                          about using
                                                          Yang tools

                                                          in the ODL
                                                          framework to
                                                          setup and
                                                          control  flows
                                                          .

                                                          I saw many
                                                          presentations
                                                          describing the
                                                          power and

                                                          flexibility
                                                          for this
                                                          approach , but
                                                          is  hard to
                                                          find

                                                          documentation
                                                          and 
                                                          simple/realistic
                                                          examples in
                                                          using it .

                                                          

                                                          I am also
                                                          interested to
                                                          learn using
                                                          ALTO, LACP,
                                                          Opflex, Intend
                                                          .

                                                          

                                                          A significant
                                                          part of the
                                                          on-line
                                                          documentation

                                                          (using web
                                                          search
                                                          engines) or
                                                          examples  is
                                                          for Hydrogen
                                                          or Helium

                                                          releases and 
                                                           is not
                                                          updated for
                                                          the Lithium
                                                          version.

                                                          In the doc
                                                          wiki pages
                                                          there are many
                                                          broken links
                                                          or links to

                                                          old version
                                                          for the
                                                          documentation.

                                                          

                                                          I think that
                                                          good
                                                          documentation
                                                          is very
                                                          important for
                                                          such a complex

                                                          project.  I
                                                          also believe
                                                          that having 
                                                          simple 
                                                          examples in
                                                          using

                                                          ODL framework
                                                          for realistic
                                                          problems /
                                                          configuration
                                                          will help a

                                                          lot the user
                                                          community .

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          Best Regards,

                                                          ioji
                                                          

                                                          


                                                          

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          On 9/23/2015
                                                          7:06 PM,
                                                          Melissa Logan
                                                          wrote:

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          
 Hi
                                                          Losif,

                                                          

                                                          Thank you for
                                                          that feedback.
                                                          The good news
                                                          is that we'll
                                                          soon have a

                                                          resource who
                                                          will be
                                                          updating key
                                                          documentation,
                                                          but it may
                                                          take some time

                                                          before you see
                                                          the results.
                                                          Which projects
                                                          specifically
                                                          do you need
                                                          help

                                                          with? We may
                                                          be able to
                                                          find community
                                                          members who
                                                          can help.

                                                          

                                                          Melissa

                                                          

                                                          On Wed, Sep
                                                          23, 2015 at
                                                          9:15 AM, Iosif
                                                          Legrand <Iosif.Legrand@...>

                                                          wrote:

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          
 Hello ,

                                                          

                                                          I am trying to
                                                          learn it and
                                                          use it in our
                                                          environment.

                                                          There are
                                                          several new
                                                          interesting
                                                          projects /
                                                          modules in
                                                          Lithium

                                                          but is no 
                                                          appropriate
                                                          documentation
                                                          and examples
                                                          in how to use
                                                          them.

                                                          This is most
                                                          frustrating
                                                          part .

                                                          

                                                          Regards,

                                                          Iosif

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          On 09/23/2015
                                                          04:57 PM,
                                                          Harvey Newman
                                                          wrote:

                                                          

                                                          Iosif is
                                                          studying
                                                          Lithium and
                                                          can comment.

                                                          Harvey

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          On 9/23/2015
                                                          7:10 AM,
                                                          Melissa Logan
                                                          wrote:

                                                          

                                                          OK great! We
                                                          will be in
                                                          touch with the
                                                          materials for
                                                          input.

                                                          

                                                          With regard to
                                                          Lithium, how
                                                          is that
                                                          progressing
                                                          for you?

                                                          On Sep 23,
                                                          2015 6:50 AM,
                                                          "Harvey
                                                          Newman" <newman@...>



                                                          wrote:

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          
   Dear
                                                          Melissa,

                                                          

                                                          I am open to
                                                          this and would
                                                          be glad to
                                                          follow this up
                                                          with you.

                                                          

                                                          Regards

                                                          Harvey

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          On 9/22/2015
                                                          8:50 PM,
                                                          Melissa Logan
                                                          wrote:

                                                          

                                                          Hi Harvey,
                                                          Julian and
                                                          Dorian!

                                                          

                                                          I hope you're
                                                          all doing
                                                          well. Have you
                                                          found any dark
                                                          matter yet, or

                                                          hints of
                                                          supersymmetry?

                                                          

                                                          With regard to
                                                          SC15, we
                                                          wondered if
                                                          you would you
                                                          have the
                                                          ability to

                                                          debut or show
                                                          the video we
                                                          created with
                                                          you folks? We
                                                          thought that
                                                          might be

                                                          a perfect
                                                          venue to debut
                                                          it (i.e. if
                                                          you have a TV
                                                          in your booth,
                                                          or

                                                          perhaps during
                                                          a paper
                                                          presentation
                                                          if that makes
                                                          sense?) while
                                                          we would

                                                          publish it on
                                                          our blog,
                                                          social media,
                                                          newsletter
                                                          etc. What do
                                                          you think?

                                                          

                                                          We could even
                                                          perhaps
                                                          schedule
                                                          interviews
                                                          with a couple
                                                          HPC reporters

                                                          (e.g. HPCwire,
                                                          ZDNet) who
                                                          might be
                                                          interested in
                                                          hearing about
                                                          your

                                                          experiences,
                                                          as well as
                                                          ODL's
                                                          perspective.
                                                          Would you be
                                                          open to that?
                                                          If so

                                                          we can get the
                                                          video
                                                          finalized by
                                                          early October
                                                          and start
                                                          reaching out
                                                          to

                                                          reporters
                                                          around mid to
                                                          late October
                                                          to pitch.

                                                          

                                                          Melissa

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          On Fri, Aug
                                                          21, 2015 at
                                                          9:55 AM, Jill
                                                          Lovato <

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          <jlovato@...>jlovato@...>



                                                          wrote:

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          
 Hi
                                                          Harvey,

                                                          

                                                          That's great
                                                          news!  Please
                                                          keep us
                                                          updated on
                                                          your
                                                          submission and
                                                          paper,

                                                          and feel free
                                                          to pass along
                                                          both the
                                                          abstract you
                                                          submitted as
                                                          well as the

                                                          paper for
                                                          reference.

                                                          

                                                          We'd like to
                                                          release the
                                                          CERN video in
                                                          tandem with
                                                          SC15. Your
                                                          presence

                                                          and
                                                          presentation
                                                          at the event
                                                          and discussion
                                                          of
                                                          OpenDaylight
                                                          use would be a

                                                          good
                                                          compliment to
                                                          our
                                                          promotional
                                                          efforts
                                                          surrounding
                                                          the video. We
                                                          may

                                                          also want to
                                                          set up some
                                                          press
                                                          briefings at
                                                          that time. Let
                                                          us know if you

                                                          have any
                                                          concerns with
                                                          that approach,
                                                          otherwise
                                                          we'll move
                                                          forward.

                                                          

                                                          As for
                                                          assistance
                                                          with the
                                                          release and
                                                          the packages,
                                                          we'd love to
                                                          help.

                                                          Let us know
                                                          what you need
                                                          and we can put
                                                          you in touch
                                                          with our
                                                          technical

                                                          director, Phil
                                                          Robb, and
                                                          perhaps some
                                                          other members
                                                          of the
                                                          OpenDaylight

                                                          community, to
                                                          get that
                                                          moving.

                                                          

                                                          Thanks,

                                                          Jill

                                                          

                                                          On Tue, Aug
                                                          11, 2015 at
                                                          11:54 PM,
                                                          Harvey Newman
                                                          <newman@...>

                                                          wrote:

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          
 Hi Jill
                                                          and Melissa,

                                                          

                                                          Indeed we are
                                                          preparing for
                                                          SC15 and part
                                                          of our plan is
                                                          to talk

                                                          about our
                                                          experiences
                                                          with
                                                          OpenDaylight.
                                                          Julian and
                                                          Dorian

                                                          just submitted
                                                          an abstract to
                                                          the INDIS
                                                          workshop on
                                                          our

                                                          SC14
                                                          experiences
                                                          and more
                                                          recent
                                                          progress, and
                                                          a paper is

                                                          (very shortly)
                                                          due.

                                                          

                                                          We will also
                                                          mention some
                                                          of the same
                                                          progress in
                                                          the ESnet

                                                          R&D
                                                          workshop
                                                          planned at
                                                          about the same
                                                          time.

                                                          

                                                          Best regards

                                                          Harvey

                                                          

                                                          PS Your
                                                          contact with
                                                          us also is
                                                          opportune in
                                                          that we would
                                                          like

                                                          to present a
                                                          strong case
                                                          for ODL
                                                          Lithium. For
                                                          that to happen

                                                          we would need
                                                          some
                                                          assistance
                                                          with the
                                                          release as it
                                                          continues

                                                          to evolve, and
                                                          for some of
                                                          the packages
                                                          to settle down
                                                          by October

                                                          or earlier. We
                                                          understand
                                                          that other
                                                          users have had
                                                          similar recent

                                                          experience.

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          On 8/12/2015
                                                          3:05 AM, Jill
                                                          Lovato wrote:

                                                          

                                                          Hi Julian and
                                                          Harvey,

                                                          

                                                          Hope you are
                                                          doing well! I
                                                          work with
                                                          Melissa Logan
                                                          on PR for

                                                          OpenDaylight,
                                                          and am
                                                          reaching out
                                                          regarding the
                                                          Supercomputing
                                                          2015

                                                          conference in
                                                          Austin
                                                          November
                                                          15-20: <http://sc15.supercomputing.org/>

                                                          http://sc15.supercomputing.org/

                                                          

                                                          We don't
                                                          currently have
                                                          plans to
                                                          participate in
                                                          the event, but
                                                          are

                                                          thinking it
                                                          might be
                                                          really
                                                          compelling to
                                                          the community
                                                          to talk about
                                                          how

                                                          Caltech is
                                                          using
                                                          OpenDaylight.
                                                          We're going to
                                                          get more
                                                          details on the
                                                          event

                                                          and various
                                                          presentation
                                                          options, but
                                                          wanted to
                                                          reach out now
                                                          to see if

                                                          this is
                                                          something
                                                          you'd be
                                                          interested in;
                                                          we'd love to
                                                          work with you
                                                          on

                                                          something!

                                                          

                                                          Looking
                                                          forward to
                                                          your thoughts
                                                          on this, and
                                                          we'll be in
                                                          touch again

                                                          when we have
                                                          more details.

                                                          

                                                          Thank you,

                                                          Jill

                                                          

                                                          

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                                                          The Linux
                                                          Foundation

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    Thanks Richard and everyone.

    

    This is much appreciated. 

    I am following this closely.

    

    Harvey

    

    

    
On 11/1/2015 11:04 AM, Y. Richard Yang
      wrote:

    

    

        
          
          

          

            
Azher, all,
      


      

      
First sorry for the delay in response---I was on the road
        until early today. 

      


      

      
Let me start by saying that it is wonderful that you are
        looking into ALTO in the context of your wonderful project. The
        feedback from you is great for the ALTO project to improve. At
        the same time, we apology for the inaccuracies and hence the
        issues caused. 

      


      

      
Here is my proposal to move forward:

      
1. We will first go over the issues discovered by you in your
        email, one by one, to verify and proposal fixes; please give us
        two days;

      
2. After 1., we want to schedule a meet up with you to go
        over the issues with you and work together; I believe that no
        one is more motivated than us to fix the issues;

      
3. After 2., we will send a summary to Phil and others on
        what both ALTO and other ODL project can learn to improve.

      


      

      
How does the preceding sound?

      
Richard

        

        On Sunday, November 1, 2015, Jensen Zhang <jingxuan.n.zhang@...>
        wrote:

        

          
I agree with Junzhuo (Austin). And Azher, if
            you want to use stable ODL and ALTO, please try
            0.3.2-Lithium-SR2. Because it is the latest stable release
            version. Please check this link: MailScanner has
                  detected a possible fraud attempt from
                  "urldefense.proofpoint.com" claiming to be
https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/CrossProject:Integration_Group:Controller_Artifacts.

            

              


              

              
Best,

              

              

                

                  

                    

                      

                        

                          

                            
Jensen

                            

                          

                        

                      

                    

                  

                

                

                
2015-11-01 14:02 GMT+08:00 Junzhuo Austin Wang <wangjunzhuo200@...>:

                  

                    
Hi
                        Azher,
                      


                      

                      
May I ask which
                        version are you using? Lithium-0.3.2-SNAPSHOT is
                        not a stable version. And Lithium-0.4.0 is not a
                        valid version number. So I assume you're using
                        Beryllium 0.4.0, which is not a stable version
                        either. I suggest you downgrade to a stable
                        version of ODL, say 0.3.2-Lithium-SR2, to solve
                        these problems.

                      


                      

                      
Regards,

                      
Junzhuo

                      


                        
2015-10-31 22:38 GMT+08:00 Azher Mughal <azher@...>:

                          

                            
 We
                              recently moved from Lithium 0.3.2 snapshot
                              to Lithium 0.4.0 snapshot. I added
                              features in order at line 60, while rest
                              by Iosif.

                              

                              > history

                              

                                 60  feature:install odl-restconf
                              odl-l2switch-switch odl-openflowplugin-all
                              odl-mdsal-apidocs odl-dlux-all
                              odl-adsal-northbound

                                 61  features:install -l 

                                 62  help

                                 63                        
                              feature:install -l

                                 64  feature:install -l

                                 65  feature:install odl-alto-provider

                                 66  feature:install odl-alto-manager

                                 67  feature:list

                                 68  feature:install odl-alto-core 

                                 69  feature:install odl-alto-manager

                                 70  feature:install odl-alto-provider

                                 71  feature:install odl-alto-manager

                                 72  feature:install odl-alto-northbound

                                 73  feature:install
                              odl-alto-hosttracker

                                 74  history 

                              

                              -Azher

                              

                              
On 10/31/2015 1:25 AM, Iosif Legrand
                                wrote:

                              

                              

                                
Hello Jensen,

                                  

                                  

                                  Thank you very much for your email. 

                                  

                                  Azher from our group ( in cc )
                                  installed the ODL , and as far as know
                                  

                                  from him, he installed the pre-built
                                  Lithium - SR2.

                                  Azher , please send Jensen the command
                                  line history from our  installation. 

                                  

                                  With Best Regards,

                                  Iosif 

                                  

                                  

                                  

                                  

                                  On 10/31/2015 08:04 AM, Jensen Zhang
                                  wrote:

                                

                                

                                  

                                    

                                      
Hi Losif,

                                        

                                      

                                      Thanks for your feedback.

                                      

                                      "ALTO:Lithium User Guide" (MailScanner
                                              has detected a possible
                                              fraud attempt from
                                              "urldefense.proofpoint.com"
                                              claiming to be
https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/ALTO:Lithium_User_Guide) assumes
                                        that you are using OpenDaylight
                                        Lithium Release. But It
                                      seems that you are not using the
                                      Lithium Release. These modules you
                                      list in karaf are in our master
                                      branch, so the Lithium User Guide
                                      is not fit for them.

                                      

                                    

                                    
However, I am not sure how you
                                      install your OpenDaylight. May I
                                      get your command-line history or
                                      some logs so that we can help you
                                      better?

                                      

                                    

                                    
                                    


                                    

                                    
Regards,

                                    

                                    

                                      

                                        

                                          

                                            

                                              

                                                

                                                  
Jensen

                                                  

                                                

                                              

                                            

                                          

                                        

                                      

                                      

                                      
2015-10-31 7:29 GMT+08:00
                                        Harvey Newman <newman@...>:

                                        

                                          
 Much
                                            appreciated Phil and All.

                                            

                                            As you can see we have some
                                            very specific questions,

                                            and an issue of
                                            documentation as well.

                                            

                                            Thanks for following this
                                            through with Iosif

                                            

                                             (and the other team members
                                            cited).

                                            

                                            Best regards

                                            Harvey
                                            

                                              


                                                

                                                

                                                
On 10/30/2015 4:22
                                                  PM, Phil Robb wrote:

                                                

                                              

                                            

                                            

                                              

                                                

                                                  
Hello
                                                    Kai & Jensen:
                                                    


                                                    

                                                    
I sent this to
                                                      Richard yesterday
                                                      not realizing that
                                                      the leadership of
                                                      the project has
                                                      changed this past
                                                      week.

                                                    


                                                    

                                                    
The folks at
                                                      CalTech woking on
                                                      the Large Hadron
                                                      Collider are using
                                                      OpenDaylight to
                                                      distribute the
                                                      data they collect
                                                      to a network of
                                                      participating
                                                      universities and
                                                      they're interested
                                                      in using ALTO as
                                                      part of that
                                                      effort.

                                                    


                                                    

                                                    
However, they
                                                      are having some
                                                      issues in getting
                                                      everything stood
                                                      up.  Could you
                                                      guys take a look
                                                      at the email below
                                                      and respond to
                                                      Losif Legrand and
                                                      team with any
                                                      insights you may
                                                      have?

                                                    


                                                    

                                                    
Thanks in
                                                      advance for your
                                                      help with this.

                                                    


                                                    

                                                    
Phil.

                                                    


                                                      
On Fri, Oct
                                                        30, 2015 at 9:45
                                                        AM, Phil Robb <probb@...> wrote:

                                                        

                                                          
Hi
                                                          Losif:
                                                          


                                                          

                                                          
Thanks
                                                          for your
                                                          detailed email
                                                          regarding
                                                          ALTO.  It
                                                          sounds like
                                                          you've got
                                                          more of these
                                                          regarding
                                                          other ODL
                                                          projects but
                                                          let's take
                                                          them one at a
                                                          time.

                                                          


                                                          

                                                          
I've
                                                          cc-ed the lead
                                                          of the docs
                                                          team (Colin
                                                          Dixon), a
                                                          Tech-Writer we
                                                          have on
                                                          contract to
                                                          help us with
                                                          our
                                                          documentation
                                                          (Denise
                                                          [Walters]
                                                          Boehm) and the
                                                          Project Lead
                                                          for the ALTO
                                                          project
                                                          (Richard
                                                          Yang). 
                                                          Richard should
                                                          be able to
                                                          help us with
                                                          getting you
                                                          sorted out
                                                          regarding the
                                                          ALTO
                                                          implementation
                                                          in
                                                          OpenDaylight-Lithium
                                                          and Denise and
                                                          Colin can take
                                                          what we learn
                                                          here to
                                                          improve the
                                                          documentation
                                                          in the future.

                                                          


                                                          

                                                          
Further
                                                          comments
                                                          inline
                                                          below...

                                                          


                                                          
On
                                                          Fri, Oct 30,
                                                          2015 at 3:38
                                                          AM, Iosif
                                                          Legrand <Iosif.Legrand@...> wrote:

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          
Hello
                                                          Phil,

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          Thank you very
                                                          much for your
                                                          email and the
                                                          links to the
                                                          documentation.
                                                          

                                                          

                                                          Unfortunately
                                                          there are
                                                          significant 
                                                          discrepancy
                                                          between 
                                                          documentation
                                                          and 

                                                          and the
                                                          distribution
                                                          (Lithium)  we
                                                          are trying to
                                                          use .

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          


                                                          

                                                          
                                                          
Actually,
                                                          the problem
                                                          you are
                                                          running into
                                                          is not due to
                                                          stale
                                                          documentation
                                                          from a
                                                          previous
                                                          release. 
                                                          Lithium is the
                                                          first release
                                                          that contained
                                                          ALTO.... not
                                                          that it makes
                                                          the situation
                                                          any better.

                                                          
                                                          
 

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          
 

                                                          I would like
                                                          to show you
                                                          the example
                                                          for ALTO:

                                                          

                                                          From
                                                          "ALTO:Lithium
                                                          User Guide" (MailScanner has detected a possible
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                                                          these are the
                                                          instructions
                                                          to install
                                                          ALTO :

                                                          

                                                          
To enable
                                                          ALTO, the
                                                          features must
                                                          be installed
                                                          first. 

                                                          
 feature:install odl-alto-provider
 feature:install odl-alto-manager
 feature:install odl-alto-northbound
 feature:install odl-alto-hosttracker

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          


                                                          

                                                          
                                                          
From what
                                                          I can see
                                                          Losif you are
                                                          correct.  The
                                                          page you
                                                          reference, and
                                                          the
                                                          documentation
                                                          in the Lithium
                                                          User Guide
                                                          (page 23) is
                                                          incorrect.  I
                                                          believe the
                                                          correct
                                                          documentation
                                                          for the
                                                          installation
                                                          of ALTO is in
                                                          the Lithium
                                                          Getting
                                                          Started Guide
                                                          (page 5) with
                                                          the command
                                                          "feature:install
                                                          odl-alto-all". 
                                                          Richard Yang,
                                                          please confirm
                                                          this.

                                                          


                                                          

                                                          
Denise,
                                                          as you can
                                                          see, our
                                                          problem will
                                                          often be not
                                                          that the
                                                          correct
                                                          documentation
                                                          isn't
                                                          available, but
                                                          that it is
                                                          that it is
                                                          lost in a sea
                                                          of incorrect
                                                          information.

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          
 

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          
 From
                                                          these 4
                                                          modules the
                                                          first two do
                                                          not work :

                                                          

                                                          opendaylight-user@root>feature:install



odl-alto-provider

                                                          Error
                                                          executing
                                                          command: No
                                                          feature
                                                          matching
                                                          odl-alto-provider/0.0.0

                                                          opendaylight-user@root>feature:install



odl-alto-manager

                                                          Error
                                                          executing
                                                          command: No
                                                          feature
                                                          matching
                                                          odl-alto-manager/0.0.0

                                                          opendaylight-user@root>feature:install



odl-alto-northbound

                                                          opendaylight-user@root>feature:install



odl-alto-hosttracker

                                                          

                                                          If I list all
                                                          the modules in
                                                          karaf , these
                                                          are the
                                                          available
                                                          modules for
                                                          alto :

                                                          

                                                          odl-alto-release                             



                                                          

                                                          odl-alto-core                                



                                                          

                                                          odl-alto-basic                               



                                                          

                                                          odl-alto-extension                           



                                                          

                                                          odl-alto-standard-types                      



                                                          

                                                          odl-alto-resourcepool                        



                                                          

                                                          odl-alto-northbound                          



                                                          

                                                          odl-alto-standard-service-model             



                                                          

                                                          odl-alto-standard-northbound-route          



                                                          

                                                          odl-alto-standard-resource-translator        



                                                          

                                                          odl-alto-ird                                



                                                          

                                                          odl-alto-manual-maps                      



                                                          

                                                          odl-alto-hosttracker                         



                                                          

                                                          odl-alto-nonstandard-types                  



                                                          

                                                          odl-alto-nonstandard-service-model           



                                                          

                                                          odl-alto-nonstandard-northbound-route        



                                                          

                                                          odl-messaging4transport-api                  



                                                          

                                                          odl-messaging4transport 


                                                          

                                                          

                                                          There  are 18
                                                          ALTO modules .
                                                          

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          


                                                          

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          
This will
                                                          not be
                                                          uncommon for
                                                          modules within
                                                          OpenDaylight's
                                                          Karaf
                                                          distribution
                                                          Losif.  Many
                                                          projects
                                                          create various
                                                          karaf bundles
                                                          for their own
                                                          purposes in a
                                                          finer
                                                          granularity
                                                          than is
                                                          significant to
                                                          the end user. 
                                                          We have "user
                                                          facing karaf
                                                          features" that
                                                          aggregate
                                                          multiple
                                                          smaller
                                                          bundles into a
                                                          collection
                                                          that is
                                                          exposed and
                                                          documented to
                                                          the end user. 
                                                          I have a
                                                          feeling, in
                                                          the beginning,
                                                          the ALTO team
                                                          thought that
                                                          the four user
                                                          facing
                                                          features made
                                                          sense, but at
                                                          some point
                                                          along the way
                                                          changed to
                                                          just using
                                                          "alto-all" to
                                                          fully install
                                                          the full ALTO
                                                          functionality. 

                                                          Richard, feel
                                                          free to
                                                          correct me or
                                                          add additional
                                                          insights.

                                                          
                                                          
 

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          
 

                                                          The
                                                          documentation
                                                          describes only
                                                          the  ALTO
                                                          -manager but
                                                          this 

                                                          modules does
                                                          not exist
                                                          anymore in the
                                                          distribution.
                                                          

                                                          All these new
                                                          modules  are
                                                          totally
                                                          undocumented.
                                                          

                                                          

                                                          After
                                                          installing
                                                          these new
                                                          modules I
                                                          tried to only
                                                          

                                                          example on the
                                                          documentation
                                                          page using the
                                                          apidoc 

                                                          explorer and
                                                          it does not
                                                          seem to work.
                                                          

                                                          I also tried
                                                          using curl on
                                                          cli. 

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          


                                                          

                                                          
                                                          
I would
                                                          have expected
                                                          that if you
                                                          loaded all the
                                                          ALTO features,
                                                          that was
                                                          equivalent to
                                                          installing
                                                          "alto-all". 
                                                          Richard, can
                                                          you or someone
                                                          from the ALTO
                                                          project help
                                                          Losif and his
                                                          team get ALTO
                                                          up and running
                                                          in their
                                                          environment?

                                                          
                                                          
 

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          
 

                                                          Changing the
                                                          name of the
                                                          modules and
                                                          adding many 

                                                          new
                                                          undocumented
                                                          modules for
                                                          the same 

                                                          distribution (
                                                          Lithium) makes
                                                          it really
                                                          difficult to
                                                          use it .

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          In my option,
                                                          it will be
                                                          very  useful 
                                                          for the users
                                                          to have a set
                                                          

                                                          of simple /
                                                          realistic
                                                          examples in
                                                          how to use
                                                          these modules.
                                                          

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          


                                                          

                                                          
                                                          
Basic/simple
                                                          examples would
                                                          clearly help. 
                                                          Thanks for the
                                                          suggstion
                                                          Losif. 
                                                          Denise, lets
                                                          see if we can
                                                          get these as
                                                          we do
                                                          per-project
                                                          interviews in
                                                          the coming
                                                          weeks.

                                                          


                                                          

                                                          
Best,

                                                          


                                                          

                                                          
Phil.

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          
 

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          
 

                                                          

                                                          Thanks a lot
                                                          for all your
                                                          help.

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          Best Regards,

                                                          Iosif 

                                                          

                                                          
 

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          On 10/29/2015
                                                          02:22 AM, Phil
                                                          Robb wrote:

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          
Hello


                                                          Everyone:
                                                          


                                                          

                                                          
My
                                                          apologies for
                                                          missing this
                                                          thread
                                                          entirely until
                                                          now.  It's
                                                          totally my
                                                          bad. 

                                                          


                                                          

                                                          
I'd like
                                                          to start with
                                                          a level set so
                                                          that I know
                                                          where everyone
                                                          is in getting
                                                          up to speed.

                                                          


                                                          

                                                          
First
                                                          off, yes
                                                          trying to
                                                          search for
                                                          documentation
                                                          via google is
                                                          particularly
                                                          painful for
                                                          OpenDaylight. 
                                                          The Hydrogen
                                                          release of the
                                                          documentation
                                                          was
                                                          implemented on
                                                          the wiki but
                                                          for most of
                                                          Helium and all
                                                          of Lithium the
                                                          user facing
                                                          documentation
                                                          has been
                                                          compiled into
                                                          PDF documents
                                                          on the
                                                          OpenDaylight.org
                                                          site.  So the
                                                          best curated
                                                          documentation
                                                          we have is in
                                                          our pdf based
                                                          documents on
                                                          the
                                                          OpenDaylight.org
                                                          site and that
                                                          isn't crawled
                                                          by google (but
                                                          the very stale
                                                          wiki pages
                                                          are).  Are you
                                                          all familiar
                                                          with the
                                                          documents
                                                          produced and
                                                          available for
                                                          download
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Second,
                                                          did anyone get
                                                          the chance to
                                                          attend the ODL
                                                          Summit and
                                                          take the
                                                          day-long
                                                          tutorial given
                                                          by Ed Warnicke
                                                          on "A Grand
                                                          Tour Of Coding
                                                          For
                                                          OpenDaylight"? 
                                                          For anyone
                                                          that did not,
                                                          it will be
                                                          helpful to go
                                                          through that
                                                          material.  We
                                                          have a wiki
                                                          page that
                                                          includes the
                                                          16 labs done
                                                          in the
                                                          tutorial along
                                                          with the
                                                          slides
                                                          presented, the
                                                          USB image that
                                                          was
                                                          distributed
                                                          and used
                                                          throughout the
                                                          tutorial and
                                                          youtube video
                                                          recordings
                                                          that comprise
                                                          the day-long
                                                          event.  At the
                                                          Summit they
                                                          only got
                                                          through 13 of
                                                          the 16
                                                          tutorials so
                                                          that is all
                                                          you'll see on
                                                          the
                                                          recording. 
                                                          I'm working
                                                          with Ed to
                                                          have him
                                                          record the
                                                          last 3 labs
                                                          for
                                                          completeness
                                                          but that is
                                                          not done yet. 
                                                          If you watch
                                                          this and have
                                                          questions,
                                                          please reach
                                                          out to Ed on
                                                          irc (he's a
                                                          bit
                                                          hit-or-miss
                                                          via email). 
                                                          Ed's irc
                                                          handle is
                                                          "edwarnicke"

                                                          


                                                          

                                                          
Next, the
                                                          best resource
                                                          for each
                                                          project is
                                                          their
                                                          individual
                                                          project page
                                                          on the wiki. 
                                                          Each project
                                                          is required to
                                                          have one and
                                                          keep it up to
                                                          date.  Also on
                                                          it is a
                                                          project "Fact
                                                          Box" that
                                                          contains the
                                                          contact
                                                          information
                                                          for the
                                                          project lead
                                                          and all
                                                          committers as
                                                          well as their
                                                          mailing list,
                                                          irc channel,
                                                          meeting
                                                          information
                                                          etc.  In
                                                          addition each
                                                          page often
                                                          contains
                                                          pointers to
                                                          their most
                                                          recent wiki
                                                          page
                                                          documentation
                                                          and any other
                                                          relevant
                                                          resources. 
                                                          The full list
                                                          is here: MailScanner has detected a possible
                                                          fraud attempt
                                                          from
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https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Project_list and the specific
                                                          projects in
                                                          question are
                                                          here:

                                                          
                                                          
                                                          
                                                          
                                                          
                                                          
                                                          


                                                          

                                                          
Also
                                                          note, that if
                                                          you are ever
                                                          concerned that
                                                          something
                                                          might be out
                                                          of date, just
                                                          click on the
                                                          "view history"
                                                          tab at the top
                                                          of the wiki
                                                          page.  That
                                                          will show you
                                                          when the most
                                                          recent changes
                                                          were made
                                                          giving you
                                                          some level of
                                                          confidence on
                                                          the
                                                          "freshness" of
                                                          the material.

                                                          


                                                          

                                                          
If you've
                                                          not yet looked
                                                          through the
                                                          above material
                                                          please do so
                                                          and let me
                                                          know if it
                                                          helps.  The
                                                          next step will
                                                          be to reach
                                                          out to the
                                                          Project leads
                                                          for each of
                                                          the above
                                                          either on the
                                                          mailing lists
                                                          or irc
                                                          channels with
                                                          your specific
                                                          questions. 
                                                          What the
                                                          community
                                                          lacks in
                                                          documentation
                                                          (and we know
                                                          we lack in
                                                          documentation)
                                                          we make up for
                                                          in timely
                                                          responses to
                                                          your
                                                          questions...
                                                          unless your
                                                          request gets
                                                          lost in my
                                                          inbox... but
                                                          I've already
                                                          covered that
                                                          above in this
                                                          email... and
                                                          again, sorry
                                                          about that.

                                                          


                                                          

                                                          
Best,

                                                          


                                                          

                                                          
Phil.

                                                          


                                                          

                                                          


                                                          

                                                          

                                                          
On Thu,
                                                          Sep 24, 2015
                                                          at 9:42 PM,
                                                          Iosif Legrand
                                                          <Iosif.Legrand@...> wrote:

                                                          
Hello




                                                          Melissa,

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          Thank you very
                                                          much for your
                                                          email.

                                                          

                                                          I would  like
                                                          to learn more
                                                          about using
                                                          Yang tools

                                                          in the ODL
                                                          framework to
                                                          setup and
                                                          control  flows
                                                          .

                                                          I saw many
                                                          presentations
                                                          describing the
                                                          power and

                                                          flexibility
                                                          for this
                                                          approach , but
                                                          is  hard to
                                                          find

                                                          documentation
                                                          and 
                                                          simple/realistic
                                                          examples in
                                                          using it .

                                                          

                                                          I am also
                                                          interested to
                                                          learn using
                                                          ALTO, LACP,
                                                          Opflex, Intend
                                                          .

                                                          

                                                          A significant
                                                          part of the
                                                          on-line
                                                          documentation

                                                          (using web
                                                          search
                                                          engines) or
                                                          examples  is
                                                          for Hydrogen
                                                          or Helium

                                                          releases and 
                                                           is not
                                                          updated for
                                                          the Lithium
                                                          version.

                                                          In the doc
                                                          wiki pages
                                                          there are many
                                                          broken links
                                                          or links to

                                                          old version
                                                          for the
                                                          documentation.

                                                          

                                                          I think that
                                                          good
                                                          documentation
                                                          is very
                                                          important for
                                                          such a complex

                                                          project.  I
                                                          also believe
                                                          that having 
                                                          simple 
                                                          examples in
                                                          using

                                                          ODL framework
                                                          for realistic
                                                          problems /
                                                          configuration
                                                          will help a

                                                          lot the user
                                                          community .

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          Best Regards,

                                                          ioji
                                                          

                                                          


                                                          

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          On 9/23/2015
                                                          7:06 PM,
                                                          Melissa Logan
                                                          wrote:

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          
 Hi
                                                          Losif,

                                                          

                                                          Thank you for
                                                          that feedback.
                                                          The good news
                                                          is that we'll
                                                          soon have a

                                                          resource who
                                                          will be
                                                          updating key
                                                          documentation,
                                                          but it may
                                                          take some time

                                                          before you see
                                                          the results.
                                                          Which projects
                                                          specifically
                                                          do you need
                                                          help

                                                          with? We may
                                                          be able to
                                                          find community
                                                          members who
                                                          can help.

                                                          

                                                          Melissa

                                                          

                                                          On Wed, Sep
                                                          23, 2015 at
                                                          9:15 AM, Iosif
                                                          Legrand <Iosif.Legrand@...>

                                                          wrote:

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          
 Hello ,

                                                          

                                                          I am trying to
                                                          learn it and
                                                          use it in our
                                                          environment.

                                                          There are
                                                          several new
                                                          interesting
                                                          projects /
                                                          modules in
                                                          Lithium

                                                          but is no 
                                                          appropriate
                                                          documentation
                                                          and examples
                                                          in how to use
                                                          them.

                                                          This is most
                                                          frustrating
                                                          part .

                                                          

                                                          Regards,

                                                          Iosif

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          On 09/23/2015
                                                          04:57 PM,
                                                          Harvey Newman
                                                          wrote:

                                                          

                                                          Iosif is
                                                          studying
                                                          Lithium and
                                                          can comment.

                                                          Harvey

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          On 9/23/2015
                                                          7:10 AM,
                                                          Melissa Logan
                                                          wrote:

                                                          

                                                          OK great! We
                                                          will be in
                                                          touch with the
                                                          materials for
                                                          input.

                                                          

                                                          With regard to
                                                          Lithium, how
                                                          is that
                                                          progressing
                                                          for you?

                                                          On Sep 23,
                                                          2015 6:50 AM,
                                                          "Harvey
                                                          Newman" <newman@...> wrote:

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          
   Dear
                                                          Melissa,

                                                          

                                                          I am open to
                                                          this and would
                                                          be glad to
                                                          follow this up
                                                          with you.

                                                          

                                                          Regards

                                                          Harvey

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          On 9/22/2015
                                                          8:50 PM,
                                                          Melissa Logan
                                                          wrote:

                                                          

                                                          Hi Harvey,
                                                          Julian and
                                                          Dorian!

                                                          

                                                          I hope you're
                                                          all doing
                                                          well. Have you
                                                          found any dark
                                                          matter yet, or

                                                          hints of
                                                          supersymmetry?

                                                          

                                                          With regard to
                                                          SC15, we
                                                          wondered if
                                                          you would you
                                                          have the
                                                          ability to

                                                          debut or show
                                                          the video we
                                                          created with
                                                          you folks? We
                                                          thought that
                                                          might be

                                                          a perfect
                                                          venue to debut
                                                          it (i.e. if
                                                          you have a TV
                                                          in your booth,
                                                          or

                                                          perhaps during
                                                          a paper
                                                          presentation
                                                          if that makes
                                                          sense?) while
                                                          we would

                                                          publish it on
                                                          our blog,
                                                          social media,
                                                          newsletter
                                                          etc. What do
                                                          you think?

                                                          

                                                          We could even
                                                          perhaps
                                                          schedule
                                                          interviews
                                                          with a couple
                                                          HPC reporters

                                                          (e.g. HPCwire,
                                                          ZDNet) who
                                                          might be
                                                          interested in
                                                          hearing about
                                                          your

                                                          experiences,
                                                          as well as
                                                          ODL's
                                                          perspective.
                                                          Would you be
                                                          open to that?
                                                          If so

                                                          we can get the
                                                          video
                                                          finalized by
                                                          early October
                                                          and start
                                                          reaching out
                                                          to

                                                          reporters
                                                          around mid to
                                                          late October
                                                          to pitch.

                                                          

                                                          Melissa

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          On Fri, Aug
                                                          21, 2015 at
                                                          9:55 AM, Jill
                                                          Lovato <

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          <jlovato@...>jlovato@...> wrote:

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          
 Hi
                                                          Harvey,

                                                          

                                                          That's great
                                                          news!  Please
                                                          keep us
                                                          updated on
                                                          your
                                                          submission and
                                                          paper,

                                                          and feel free
                                                          to pass along
                                                          both the
                                                          abstract you
                                                          submitted as
                                                          well as the

                                                          paper for
                                                          reference.

                                                          

                                                          We'd like to
                                                          release the
                                                          CERN video in
                                                          tandem with
                                                          SC15. Your
                                                          presence

                                                          and
                                                          presentation
                                                          at the event
                                                          and discussion
                                                          of
                                                          OpenDaylight
                                                          use would be a

                                                          good
                                                          compliment to
                                                          our
                                                          promotional
                                                          efforts
                                                          surrounding
                                                          the video. We
                                                          may

                                                          also want to
                                                          set up some
                                                          press
                                                          briefings at
                                                          that time. Let
                                                          us know if you

                                                          have any
                                                          concerns with
                                                          that approach,
                                                          otherwise
                                                          we'll move
                                                          forward.

                                                          

                                                          As for
                                                          assistance
                                                          with the
                                                          release and
                                                          the packages,
                                                          we'd love to
                                                          help.

                                                          Let us know
                                                          what you need
                                                          and we can put
                                                          you in touch
                                                          with our
                                                          technical

                                                          director, Phil
                                                          Robb, and
                                                          perhaps some
                                                          other members
                                                          of the
                                                          OpenDaylight

                                                          community, to
                                                          get that
                                                          moving.

                                                          

                                                          Thanks,

                                                          Jill

                                                          

                                                          On Tue, Aug
                                                          11, 2015 at
                                                          11:54 PM,
                                                          Harvey Newman
                                                          <newman@...>

                                                          wrote:

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          
 Hi Jill
                                                          and Melissa,

                                                          

                                                          Indeed we are
                                                          preparing for
                                                          SC15 and part
                                                          of our plan is
                                                          to talk

                                                          about our
                                                          experiences
                                                          with
                                                          OpenDaylight.
                                                          Julian and
                                                          Dorian

                                                          just submitted
                                                          an abstract to
                                                          the INDIS
                                                          workshop on
                                                          our

                                                          SC14
                                                          experiences
                                                          and more
                                                          recent
                                                          progress, and
                                                          a paper is

                                                          (very shortly)
                                                          due.

                                                          

                                                          We will also
                                                          mention some
                                                          of the same
                                                          progress in
                                                          the ESnet

                                                          R&D
                                                          workshop
                                                          planned at
                                                          about the same
                                                          time.

                                                          

                                                          Best regards

                                                          Harvey

                                                          

                                                          PS Your
                                                          contact with
                                                          us also is
                                                          opportune in
                                                          that we would
                                                          like

                                                          to present a
                                                          strong case
                                                          for ODL
                                                          Lithium. For
                                                          that to happen

                                                          we would need
                                                          some
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                                                          release as it
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                                                          to evolve, and
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                                                          or earlier. We
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                                                          3:05 AM, Jill
                                                          Lovato wrote:

                                                          

                                                          Hi Julian and
                                                          Harvey,

                                                          

                                                          Hope you are
                                                          doing well! I
                                                          work with
                                                          Melissa Logan
                                                          on PR for

                                                          OpenDaylight,
                                                          and am
                                                          reaching out
                                                          regarding the
                                                          Supercomputing
                                                          2015

                                                          conference in
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                                                          plans to
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                                                          are

                                                          thinking it
                                                          might be
                                                          really
                                                          compelling to
                                                          the community
                                                          to talk about
                                                          how

                                                          Caltech is
                                                          using
                                                          OpenDaylight.
                                                          We're going to
                                                          get more
                                                          details on the
                                                          event

                                                          and various
                                                          presentation
                                                          options, but
                                                          wanted to
                                                          reach out now
                                                          to see if

                                                          this is
                                                          something
                                                          you'd be
                                                          interested in;
                                                          we'd love to
                                                          work with you
                                                          on

                                                          something!

                                                          

                                                          Looking
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                                                          on this, and
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                                                          more details.

                                                          

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Hello Richard,


Thank really very much for your email.

I think we can use the ODL version that you suggest is better for using ALTO.

We would like to use ALTO based on  the North Bound REST API.
As the time we have until SC15 is quite short, it wll be very useful for
us if you have some examples in how o use it.

I would like to start with a quite simple topology ( the attached diagram )
where we have four sites in a ring and than I hope we can extend it for more complex cases.

Thank you very much.

Best Regards,
Iosif

        
          
          

          

            
On 11/1/2015 8:04 PM, Y. Richard Yang wrote:
Azher, all,

First sorry for the delay in response---I was on the road until early
today.

Let me start by saying that it is wonderful that you are looking into ALTO
in the context of your wonderful project. The feedback from you is great
for the ALTO project to improve. At the same time, we apology for the
inaccuracies and hence the issues caused.

Here is my proposal to move forward:
1. We will first go over the issues discovered by you in your email, one by
one, to verify and proposal fixes; please give us two days;
2. After 1., we want to schedule a meet up with you to go over the issues
with you and work together; I believe that no one is more motivated than us
to fix the issues;
3. After 2., we will send a summary to Phil and others on what both ALTO
and other ODL project can learn to improve.

How does the preceding sound?
Richard

On Sunday, November 1, 2015, Jensen Zhang <jingxuan.n.zhang@...>
wrote:

I agree with Junzhuo (Austin). And Azher, if you want to use stable ODL
and ALTO, please try 0.3.2-Lithium-SR2. Because it is the latest stable
release version. Please check this link:
https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/CrossProject:Integration_Group:Controller_Artifacts
<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__wiki.opendaylight.org_view_CrossProject-3AIntegration-5FGroup-3AController-5FArtifacts&d=AwMFaQ&c=-dg2m7zWuuDZ0MUcV7Sdqw&r=4G36iiEVb2m_v-0RnP2gx9KZJjYQgfvrOCE3789JGIA&m=Y6nHk9YlEv5uixIXZPApl3BfPJfBdVYsyv62OL9wX94&s=SUI7LUr3fQAz7a9iBXe0eP2QorSwtiExYFCTEWUja40&e=>
.

Best,
Jensen

2015-11-01 14:02 GMT+08:00 Junzhuo Austin Wang <wangjunzhuo200@...>:

Hi Azher,

May I ask which version are you using? Lithium-0.3.2-SNAPSHOT is not a
stable version. And Lithium-0.4.0 is not a valid version number. So I
assume you're using Beryllium 0.4.0, which is not a stable version either.
I suggest you downgrade to a stable version of ODL, say 0.3.2-Lithium-SR2,
to solve these problems.

Regards,
Junzhuo

2015-10-31 22:38 GMT+08:00 Azher Mughal <azher@...>:

We recently moved from Lithium 0.3.2 snapshot to Lithium 0.4.0 snapshot. I
added features in order at line 60, while rest by Iosif.

history
    60  feature:install odl-restconf odl-l2switch-switch
odl-openflowplugin-all odl-mdsal-apidocs odl-dlux-all odl-adsal-northbound
    61  features:install -l
    62  help
    63                         feature:install -l
    64  feature:install -l
    65  feature:install odl-alto-provider
    66  feature:install odl-alto-manager
    67  feature:list
    68  feature:install odl-alto-core
    69  feature:install odl-alto-manager
    70  feature:install odl-alto-provider
    71  feature:install odl-alto-manager
    72  feature:install odl-alto-northbound
    73  feature:install odl-alto-hosttracker
    74  history

-Azher

On 10/31/2015 1:25 AM, Iosif Legrand wrote:

Hello Jensen,


Thank you very much for your email.

Azher from our group ( in cc ) installed the ODL , and as far as know
from him, he installed the pre-built Lithium - SR2.
Azher , please send Jensen the command line history from our
installation.

With Best Regards,
Iosif




On 10/31/2015 08:04 AM, Jensen Zhang wrote:

Hi Losif,

Thanks for your feedback.

"ALTO:Lithium User Guide" (
https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/ALTO:Lithium_User_Guide
<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__wiki.opendaylight.org_view_ALTO-3ALithium-5FUser-5FGuide&d=AwMFaQ&c=-dg2m7zWuuDZ0MUcV7Sdqw&r=4G36iiEVb2m_v-0RnP2gx9KZJjYQgfvrOCE3789JGIA&m=Y6nHk9YlEv5uixIXZPApl3BfPJfBdVYsyv62OL9wX94&s=t66kyovQQHg4_NrUbWPIwtmjDxOsJW-pZBNlr5Qgh-0&e=>)
assumes that you are using OpenDaylight Lithium Release. But It seems
that you are not using the Lithium Release. These modules you list in karaf
are in our master branch, so the Lithium User Guide is not fit for them.

However, I am not sure how you install your OpenDaylight. May I get your
command-line history or some logs so that we can help you better?

BTW. I think you can get the pre-built version of ODL Lithium-SR2 from
this link (https://www.opendaylight.org/downloads
<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.opendaylight.org_downloads&d=AwMFaQ&c=-dg2m7zWuuDZ0MUcV7Sdqw&r=4G36iiEVb2m_v-0RnP2gx9KZJjYQgfvrOCE3789JGIA&m=Y6nHk9YlEv5uixIXZPApl3BfPJfBdVYsyv62OL9wX94&s=VluKfkorna-mI2YWrfEUaD4WGA-67OGN538wrtAfngg&e=>
).

Regards,
Jensen

2015-10-31 7:29 GMT+08:00 Harvey Newman <newman@...>:

Much appreciated Phil and All.

As you can see we have some very specific questions,
and an issue of documentation as well.

Thanks for following this through with Iosif

  (and the other team members cited).

Best regards
Harvey



On 10/30/2015 4:22 PM, Phil Robb wrote:

Hello Kai & Jensen:

I sent this to Richard yesterday not realizing that the leadership of the
project has changed this past week.

The folks at CalTech woking on the Large Hadron Collider are using
OpenDaylight to distribute the data they collect to a network of
participating universities and they're interested in using ALTO as part of
that effort.

However, they are having some issues in getting everything stood up.
Could you guys take a look at the email below and respond to Losif Legrand
and team with any insights you may have?

Thanks in advance for your help with this.

Phil.

On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 9:45 AM, Phil Robb <probb@...>
wrote:

Hi Losif:

Thanks for your detailed email regarding ALTO.  It sounds like you've got
more of these regarding other ODL projects but let's take them one at a
time.

I've cc-ed the lead of the docs team (Colin Dixon), a Tech-Writer we have
on contract to help us with our documentation (Denise [Walters] Boehm) and
the Project Lead for the ALTO project (Richard Yang).  Richard should be
able to help us with getting you sorted out regarding the ALTO
implementation in OpenDaylight-Lithium and Denise and Colin can take what
we learn here to improve the documentation in the future.

Further comments inline below...

On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 3:38 AM, Iosif Legrand <Iosif.Legrand@...>
wrote:

Hello Phil,


Thank you very much for your email and the links to the documentation.

Unfortunately there are significant  discrepancy between  documentation
and
and the distribution (Lithium)  we are trying to use .


Actually, the problem you are running into is not due to stale
documentation from a previous release.  Lithium is the first release that
contained ALTO.... not that it makes the situation any better.



I would like to show you the example for ALTO:

 From "ALTO:Lithium User Guide" (
<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__wiki.opendaylight.org_view_ALTO-3ALithium-5FUser-5FGuide&d=AwMFaQ&c=-dg2m7zWuuDZ0MUcV7Sdqw&r=4G36iiEVb2m_v-0RnP2gx9KZJjYQgfvrOCE3789JGIA&m=Y6nHk9YlEv5uixIXZPApl3BfPJfBdVYsyv62OL9wX94&s=t66kyovQQHg4_NrUbWPIwtmjDxOsJW-pZBNlr5Qgh-0&e=>
https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/ALTO:Lithium_User_Guide
<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__wiki.opendaylight.org_view_ALTO-3ALithium-5FUser-5FGuide&d=AwMFaQ&c=-dg2m7zWuuDZ0MUcV7Sdqw&r=4G36iiEVb2m_v-0RnP2gx9KZJjYQgfvrOCE3789JGIA&m=Y6nHk9YlEv5uixIXZPApl3BfPJfBdVYsyv62OL9wX94&s=t66kyovQQHg4_NrUbWPIwtmjDxOsJW-pZBNlr5Qgh-0&e=>
)
these are the instructions to install ALTO :

To enable ALTO, the features must be installed first.

  feature:install odl-alto-provider
  feature:install odl-alto-manager
  feature:install odl-alto-northbound
  feature:install odl-alto-hosttracker


 From what I can see Losif you are correct.  The page you reference, and
the documentation in the Lithium User Guide (page 23) is incorrect.  I
believe the correct documentation for the installation of ALTO is in the
Lithium Getting Started Guide (page 5) with the command "feature:install
odl-alto-all".  Richard Yang, please confirm this.

Denise, as you can see, our problem will often be not that the correct
documentation isn't available, but that it is that it is lost in a sea of
incorrect information.


 From these 4 modules the first two do not work :

opendaylight-user@root>feature:install odl-alto-provider
Error executing command: No feature matching odl-alto-provider/0.0.0
opendaylight-user@root>feature:install odl-alto-manager
Error executing command: No feature matching odl-alto-manager/0.0.0
opendaylight-user@root>feature:install odl-alto-northbound
opendaylight-user@root>feature:install odl-alto-hosttracker

If I list all the modules in karaf , these are the available modules for
alto :

odl-alto-release
odl-alto-core
odl-alto-basic
odl-alto-extension
odl-alto-standard-types
odl-alto-resourcepool
odl-alto-northbound
odl-alto-standard-service-model
odl-alto-standard-northbound-route
odl-alto-standard-resource-translator
odl-alto-ird
odl-alto-manual-maps
odl-alto-hosttracker
odl-alto-nonstandard-types
odl-alto-nonstandard-service-model
odl-alto-nonstandard-northbound-route
odl-messaging4transport-api
odl-messaging4transport

There  are 18 ALTO modules .


This will not be uncommon for modules within OpenDaylight's Karaf
distribution Losif.  Many projects create various karaf bundles for their
own purposes in a finer granularity than is significant to the end user.
We have "user facing karaf features" that aggregate multiple smaller
bundles into a collection that is exposed and documented to the end user.
I have a feeling, in the beginning, the ALTO team thought that the four
user facing features made sense, but at some point along the way changed to
just using "alto-all" to fully install the full ALTO functionality.
Richard, feel free to correct me or add additional insights.



The documentation describes only the  ALTO -manager but this
modules does not exist anymore in the distribution.
All these new modules  are totally undocumented.

After installing these new modules I tried to only
example on the documentation page using the apidoc
explorer and it does not seem to work.
I also tried using curl on cli.


I would have expected that if you loaded all the ALTO features, that was
equivalent to installing "alto-all".  Richard, can you or someone from the
ALTO project help Losif and his team get ALTO up and running in their
environment?



Changing the name of the modules and adding many
new undocumented modules for the same
distribution ( Lithium) makes it really difficult to use it .



In my option, it will be very  useful  for the users to have a set
of simple / realistic examples in how to use these modules.


Basic/simple examples would clearly help.  Thanks for the suggstion
Losif.  Denise, lets see if we can get these as we do per-project
interviews in the coming weeks.

Best,

Phil.




Thanks a lot for all your help.


Best Regards,
Iosif






On 10/29/2015 02:22 AM, Phil Robb wrote:

Hello Everyone:

My apologies for missing this thread entirely until now.  It's totally my
bad.

I'd like to start with a level set so that I know where everyone is in
getting up to speed.

First off, yes trying to search for documentation via google is
particularly painful for OpenDaylight.  The Hydrogen release of the
documentation was implemented on the wiki but for most of Helium and all of
Lithium the user facing documentation has been compiled into PDF documents
on the OpenDaylight.org site.  So the best curated documentation we have is
in our pdf based documents on the OpenDaylight.org site and that isn't
crawled by google (but the very stale wiki pages are).  Are you all
familiar with the documents produced and available for download here?:
<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.opendaylight.org_downloads&d=AwMFaQ&c=-dg2m7zWuuDZ0MUcV7Sdqw&r=4G36iiEVb2m_v-0RnP2gx9KZJjYQgfvrOCE3789JGIA&m=Y6nHk9YlEv5uixIXZPApl3BfPJfBdVYsyv62OL9wX94&s=VluKfkorna-mI2YWrfEUaD4WGA-67OGN538wrtAfngg&e=>
https://www.opendaylight.org/downloads
<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.opendaylight.org_downloads&d=AwMFaQ&c=-dg2m7zWuuDZ0MUcV7Sdqw&r=4G36iiEVb2m_v-0RnP2gx9KZJjYQgfvrOCE3789JGIA&m=Y6nHk9YlEv5uixIXZPApl3BfPJfBdVYsyv62OL9wX94&s=VluKfkorna-mI2YWrfEUaD4WGA-67OGN538wrtAfngg&e=>

Second, did anyone get the chance to attend the ODL Summit and take the
day-long tutorial given by Ed Warnicke on "A Grand Tour Of Coding For
OpenDaylight"?  For anyone that did not, it will be helpful to go through
that material.  We have a wiki page that includes the 16 labs done in the
tutorial along with the slides presented, the USB image that was
distributed and used throughout the tutorial and youtube video recordings
that comprise the day-long event.  At the Summit they only got through 13
of the 16 tutorials so that is all you'll see on the recording.  I'm
working with Ed to have him record the last 3 labs for completeness but
that is not done yet.  If you watch this and have questions, please reach
out to Ed on irc (he's a bit hit-or-miss via email).  Ed's irc handle is
"edwarnicke"

Next, the best resource for each project is their individual project page
on the wiki.  Each project is required to have one and keep it up to date.
Also on it is a project "Fact Box" that contains the contact information
for the project lead and all committers as well as their mailing list, irc
channel, meeting information etc.  In addition each page often contains
pointers to their most recent wiki page documentation and any other
relevant resources.  The full list is here:
<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__wiki.opendaylight.org_view_Project-5Flist&d=AwMFaQ&c=-dg2m7zWuuDZ0MUcV7Sdqw&r=4G36iiEVb2m_v-0RnP2gx9KZJjYQgfvrOCE3789JGIA&m=Y6nHk9YlEv5uixIXZPApl3BfPJfBdVYsyv62OL9wX94&s=bV0b573NMoHWZP98T5TbkrERvXliakhtdZ7sfZlL6pY&e=>
https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Project_list
<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__wiki.opendaylight.org_view_Project-5Flist&d=AwMFaQ&c=-dg2m7zWuuDZ0MUcV7Sdqw&r=4G36iiEVb2m_v-0RnP2gx9KZJjYQgfvrOCE3789JGIA&m=Y6nHk9YlEv5uixIXZPApl3BfPJfBdVYsyv62OL9wX94&s=bV0b573NMoHWZP98T5TbkrERvXliakhtdZ7sfZlL6pY&e=>
and the specific projects in question are here:

<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__wiki.opendaylight.org_view_ALTO-3AMain&d=AwMFaQ&c=-dg2m7zWuuDZ0MUcV7Sdqw&r=4G36iiEVb2m_v-0RnP2gx9KZJjYQgfvrOCE3789JGIA&m=Y6nHk9YlEv5uixIXZPApl3BfPJfBdVYsyv62OL9wX94&s=W2w4XhFgK3JY7DjqTdKNJV-dVPGK6d20EvQn0WFnMFE&e=>
https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/ALTO:Main
<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__wiki.opendaylight.org_view_ALTO-3AMain&d=AwMFaQ&c=-dg2m7zWuuDZ0MUcV7Sdqw&r=4G36iiEVb2m_v-0RnP2gx9KZJjYQgfvrOCE3789JGIA&m=Y6nHk9YlEv5uixIXZPApl3BfPJfBdVYsyv62OL9wX94&s=W2w4XhFgK3JY7DjqTdKNJV-dVPGK6d20EvQn0WFnMFE&e=>

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https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/OpenDaylight_OpenFlow_Plugin:Main
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date, just click on the "view history" tab at the top of the wiki page.
That will show you when the most recent changes were made giving you some
level of confidence on the "freshness" of the material.

If you've not yet looked through the above material please do so and let
me know if it helps.  The next step will be to reach out to the Project
leads for each of the above either on the mailing lists or irc channels
with your specific questions.  What the community lacks in documentation
(and we know we lack in documentation) we make up for in timely responses
to your questions... unless your request gets lost in my inbox... but I've
already covered that above in this email... and again, sorry about that.

Best,

Phil.


On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 9:42 PM, Iosif Legrand <Iosif.Legrand@...>
wrote:

Hello Melissa,


Thank you very much for your email.

I would  like to learn more about using Yang tools
in the ODL framework to setup and control  flows .
I saw many presentations describing the power and
flexibility for this approach , but is  hard to find
documentation and  simple/realistic examples in using it .

I am also interested to learn using ALTO, LACP, Opflex, Intend .

A significant part of the on-line documentation
(using web search engines) or examples  is for Hydrogen or Helium
releases and   is not updated for the Lithium version.
In the doc wiki pages there are many broken links or links to
old version for the documentation.

I think that good documentation is very important for such a complex
project.  I also believe that having  simple  examples in using
ODL framework for realistic problems / configuration will help a
lot the user community .


Best Regards,
ioji




On 9/23/2015 7:06 PM, Melissa Logan wrote:

Hi Losif,

Thank you for that feedback. The good news is that we'll soon have a
resource who will be updating key documentation, but it may take some time
before you see the results. Which projects specifically do you need help
with? We may be able to find community members who can help.

Melissa

On Wed, Sep 23, 2015 at 9:15 AM, Iosif Legrand <Iosif.Legrand@...>
wrote:

Hello ,

I am trying to learn it and use it in our environment.
There are several new interesting projects / modules in Lithium
but is no  appropriate documentation and examples in how to use them.
This is most frustrating part .

Regards,
Iosif



On 09/23/2015 04:57 PM, Harvey Newman wrote:

Iosif is studying Lithium and can comment.
Harvey


On 9/23/2015 7:10 AM, Melissa Logan wrote:

OK great! We will be in touch with the materials for input.

With regard to Lithium, how is that progressing for you?
On Sep 23, 2015 6:50 AM, "Harvey Newman" <newman@...> wrote:

   Dear Melissa,

I am open to this and would be glad to follow this up with you.

Regards
Harvey



On 9/22/2015 8:50 PM, Melissa Logan wrote:

Hi Harvey, Julian and Dorian!

I hope you're all doing well. Have you found any dark matter yet, or
hints of supersymmetry?

With regard to SC15, we wondered if you would you have the ability to
debut or show the video we created with you folks? We thought that might be
a perfect venue to debut it (i.e. if you have a TV in your booth, or
perhaps during a paper presentation if that makes sense?) while we would
publish it on our blog, social media, newsletter etc. What do you think?

We could even perhaps schedule interviews with a couple HPC reporters
(e.g. HPCwire, ZDNet) who might be interested in hearing about your
experiences, as well as ODL's perspective. Would you be open to that? If so
we can get the video finalized by early October and start reaching out to
reporters around mid to late October to pitch.

Melissa


On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 9:55 AM, Jill Lovato <
<jlovato@...>jlovato@...> wrote:

Hi Harvey,

That's great news!  Please keep us updated on your submission and paper,
and feel free to pass along both the abstract you submitted as well as the
paper for reference.

We'd like to release the CERN video in tandem with SC15. Your presence
and presentation at the event and discussion of OpenDaylight use would be a
good compliment to our promotional efforts surrounding the video. We may
also want to set up some press briefings at that time. Let us know if you
have any concerns with that approach, otherwise we'll move forward.

As for assistance with the release and the packages, we'd love to help.
Let us know what you need and we can put you in touch with our technical
director, Phil Robb, and perhaps some other members of the OpenDaylight
community, to get that moving.

Thanks,
Jill

On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 11:54 PM, Harvey Newman <newman@...>
wrote:

Hi Jill and Melissa,

Indeed we are preparing for SC15 and part of our plan is to talk
about our experiences with OpenDaylight. Julian and Dorian
just submitted an abstract to the INDIS workshop on our
SC14 experiences and more recent progress, and a paper is
(very shortly) due.

We will also mention some of the same progress in the ESnet
R&D workshop planned at about the same time.

Best regards
Harvey

PS Your contact with us also is opportune in that we would like
to present a strong case for ODL Lithium. For that to happen
we would need some assistance with the release as it continues
to evolve, and for some of the packages to settle down by October
or earlier. We understand that other users have had similar recent
experience.


On 8/12/2015 3:05 AM, Jill Lovato wrote:

Hi Julian and Harvey,

Hope you are doing well! I work with Melissa Logan on PR for
OpenDaylight, and am reaching out regarding the Supercomputing 2015
conference in Austin November 15-20: <
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thinking it might be really compelling to the community to talk about how
Caltech is using OpenDaylight. We're going to get more details on the event
and various presentation options, but wanted to reach out now to see if
this is something you'd be interested in; we'd love to work with you on
something!

Looking forward to your thoughts on this, and we'll be in touch again
when we have more details.

Thank you,
Jill


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Hi Losif,

Let's get some more details on your SC15 work so that we can work together w/ you to solve related issues. Beyond the 4-node topology, do you have more rough write up on your SC15 work so that we can engage to provide examples (or direct clients) for you to use? Jensen, Austin, and Kai can fully engage in the next two weeks to work together. I am tied up today but can chat on the phone tomorrow.

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On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 9:02 AM, Iosif Legrand <Iosif.Legrand@...> wrote:
Hello Richard,





Thank really very much for your email.



I think we can use the ODL version that you suggest is better for using ALTO.



We would like to use ALTO based on  the North Bound REST API.

As the time we have until SC15 is quite short, it wll be very useful for

us if you have some examples in how o use it.



I would like to start with a quite simple topology ( the attached diagram )

where we have four sites in a ring and than I hope we can extend it for more complex cases.



Thank you very much.



Best Regards,

Iosif













On 11/1/2015 8:04 PM, Y. Richard Yang wrote:



Azher, all,



First sorry for the delay in response---I was on the road until early

today.



Let me start by saying that it is wonderful that you are looking into ALTO

in the context of your wonderful project. The feedback from you is great

for the ALTO project to improve. At the same time, we apology for the

inaccuracies and hence the issues caused.



Here is my proposal to move forward:

1. We will first go over the issues discovered by you in your email, one by

one, to verify and proposal fixes; please give us two days;

2. After 1., we want to schedule a meet up with you to go over the issues

with you and work together; I believe that no one is more motivated than us

to fix the issues;

3. After 2., we will send a summary to Phil and others on what both ALTO

and other ODL project can learn to improve.



How does the preceding sound?

Richard



On Sunday, November 1, 2015, Jensen Zhang <jingxuan.n.zhang@...>

wrote:





I agree with Junzhuo (Austin). And Azher, if you want to use stable ODL

and ALTO, please try 0.3.2-Lithium-SR2. Because it is the latest stable

release version. Please check this link:

https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__wiki.opendaylight.org_view_CrossProject-3AIntegration-5FGroup-3AController-5FArtifacts&d=AwICaQ&c=-dg2m7zWuuDZ0MUcV7Sdqw&r=4G36iiEVb2m_v-0RnP2gx9KZJjYQgfvrOCE3789JGIA&m=RwQGcKKUNt8Zd9RhGR1NwbGUByagc2kKUxuD8IaKAHU&s=Typ62XI0pHefTmUHTjqttpgsO7U2XIlp4Pb6zsJWDxs&e= <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__wiki.opendaylight.org_view_CrossProject-3AIntegration-5FGroup-3AController-5FArtifacts&d=AwMFaQ&c=-dg2m7zWuuDZ0MUcV7Sdqw&r=4G36iiEVb2m_v-0RnP2gx9KZJjYQgfvrOCE3789JGIA&m=Y6nHk9YlEv5uixIXZPApl3BfPJfBdVYsyv62OL9wX94&s=SUI7LUr3fQAz7a9iBXe0eP2QorSwtiExYFCTEWUja40&e=>


.



Best,

Jensen



2015-11-01 14:02 GMT+08:00 Junzhuo Austin Wang <wangjunzhuo200@...>:



Hi Azher,



May I ask which version are you using? Lithium-0.3.2-SNAPSHOT is not a

stable version. And Lithium-0.4.0 is not a valid version number. So I

assume you're using Beryllium 0.4.0, which is not a stable version either.

I suggest you downgrade to a stable version of ODL, say 0.3.2-Lithium-SR2,

to solve these problems.



Regards,

Junzhuo



2015-10-31 22:38 GMT+08:00 Azher Mughal <azher@...>:



We recently moved from Lithium 0.3.2 snapshot to Lithium 0.4.0 snapshot. I

added features in order at line 60, while rest by Iosif.





history



    60  feature:install odl-restconf odl-l2switch-switch

odl-openflowplugin-all odl-mdsal-apidocs odl-dlux-all odl-adsal-northbound

    61  features:install -l

    62  help

    63                         feature:install -l

    64  feature:install -l

    65  feature:install odl-alto-provider

    66  feature:install odl-alto-manager

    67  feature:list

    68  feature:install odl-alto-core

    69  feature:install odl-alto-manager

    70  feature:install odl-alto-provider

    71  feature:install odl-alto-manager

    72  feature:install odl-alto-northbound

    73  feature:install odl-alto-hosttracker

    74  history



-Azher



On 10/31/2015 1:25 AM, Iosif Legrand wrote:



Hello Jensen,





Thank you very much for your email.



Azher from our group ( in cc ) installed the ODL , and as far as know

from him, he installed the pre-built Lithium - SR2.

Azher , please send Jensen the command line history from our

installation.



With Best Regards,

Iosif









On 10/31/2015 08:04 AM, Jensen Zhang wrote:



Hi Losif,



Thanks for your feedback.



"ALTO:Lithium User Guide" (


https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__wiki.opendaylight.org_view_ALTO-3ALithium-5FUser-5FGuide&d=AwICaQ&c=-dg2m7zWuuDZ0MUcV7Sdqw&r=4G36iiEVb2m_v-0RnP2gx9KZJjYQgfvrOCE3789JGIA&m=RwQGcKKUNt8Zd9RhGR1NwbGUByagc2kKUxuD8IaKAHU&s=lWu7onTMBRblNlOcFsPEFpxr7W0poeDYCD-sJrMm4AI&e= <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__wiki.opendaylight.org_view_ALTO-3ALithium-5FUser-5FGuide&d=AwMFaQ&c=-dg2m7zWuuDZ0MUcV7Sdqw&r=4G36iiEVb2m_v-0RnP2gx9KZJjYQgfvrOCE3789JGIA&m=Y6nHk9YlEv5uixIXZPApl3BfPJfBdVYsyv62OL9wX94&s=t66kyovQQHg4_NrUbWPIwtmjDxOsJW-pZBNlr5Qgh-0&e=>)

assumes that you are using OpenDaylight Lithium Release. But It seems

that you are not using the Lithium Release. These modules you list in karaf

are in our master branch, so the Lithium User Guide is not fit for them.



However, I am not sure how you install your OpenDaylight. May I get your

command-line history or some logs so that we can help you better?



BTW. I think you can get the pre-built version of ODL Lithium-SR2 from

this link (https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.opendaylight.org_downloads&d=AwICaQ&c=-dg2m7zWuuDZ0MUcV7Sdqw&r=4G36iiEVb2m_v-0RnP2gx9KZJjYQgfvrOCE3789JGIA&m=RwQGcKKUNt8Zd9RhGR1NwbGUByagc2kKUxuD8IaKAHU&s=gQY9RmFj8S-kXobkhldvjL7XQhqpZxPni6lDIWHh0lQ&e= <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.opendaylight.org_downloads&d=AwMFaQ&c=-dg2m7zWuuDZ0MUcV7Sdqw&r=4G36iiEVb2m_v-0RnP2gx9KZJjYQgfvrOCE3789JGIA&m=Y6nHk9YlEv5uixIXZPApl3BfPJfBdVYsyv62OL9wX94&s=VluKfkorna-mI2YWrfEUaD4WGA-67OGN538wrtAfngg&e=>


).



Regards,

Jensen



2015-10-31 7:29 GMT+08:00 Harvey Newman <newman@...>:



Much appreciated Phil and All.



As you can see we have some very specific questions,

and an issue of documentation as well.



Thanks for following this through with Iosif



  (and the other team members cited).



Best regards

Harvey







On 10/30/2015 4:22 PM, Phil Robb wrote:



Hello Kai & Jensen:



I sent this to Richard yesterday not realizing that the leadership of the

project has changed this past week.



The folks at CalTech woking on the Large Hadron Collider are using

OpenDaylight to distribute the data they collect to a network of

participating universities and they're interested in using ALTO as part of

that effort.



However, they are having some issues in getting everything stood up.

Could you guys take a look at the email below and respond to Losif Legrand

and team with any insights you may have?



Thanks in advance for your help with this.



Phil.



On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 9:45 AM, Phil Robb <probb@...>

wrote:



Hi Losif:



Thanks for your detailed email regarding ALTO.  It sounds like you've got

more of these regarding other ODL projects but let's take them one at a

time.



I've cc-ed the lead of the docs team (Colin Dixon), a Tech-Writer we have

on contract to help us with our documentation (Denise [Walters] Boehm) and

the Project Lead for the ALTO project (Richard Yang).  Richard should be

able to help us with getting you sorted out regarding the ALTO

implementation in OpenDaylight-Lithium and Denise and Colin can take what

we learn here to improve the documentation in the future.



Further comments inline below...



On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 3:38 AM, Iosif Legrand <Iosif.Legrand@...>

wrote:



Hello Phil,





Thank you very much for your email and the links to the documentation.



Unfortunately there are significant  discrepancy between  documentation

and

and the distribution (Lithium)  we are trying to use .





Actually, the problem you are running into is not due to stale

documentation from a previous release.  Lithium is the first release that

contained ALTO.... not that it makes the situation any better.







I would like to show you the example for ALTO:



 From "ALTO:Lithium User Guide" (

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)

these are the instructions to install ALTO :



To enable ALTO, the features must be installed first.



  feature:install odl-alto-provider

  feature:install odl-alto-manager

  feature:install odl-alto-northbound

  feature:install odl-alto-hosttracker





 From what I can see Losif you are correct.  The page you reference, and

the documentation in the Lithium User Guide (page 23) is incorrect.  I

believe the correct documentation for the installation of ALTO is in the

Lithium Getting Started Guide (page 5) with the command "feature:install

odl-alto-all".  Richard Yang, please confirm this.



Denise, as you can see, our problem will often be not that the correct

documentation isn't available, but that it is that it is lost in a sea of

incorrect information.





 From these 4 modules the first two do not work :



opendaylight-user@root>feature:install odl-alto-provider

Error executing command: No feature matching odl-alto-provider/0.0.0

opendaylight-user@root>feature:install odl-alto-manager

Error executing command: No feature matching odl-alto-manager/0.0.0

opendaylight-user@root>feature:install odl-alto-northbound

opendaylight-user@root>feature:install odl-alto-hosttracker



If I list all the modules in karaf , these are the available modules for

alto :



odl-alto-release

odl-alto-core

odl-alto-basic

odl-alto-extension

odl-alto-standard-types

odl-alto-resourcepool

odl-alto-northbound

odl-alto-standard-service-model

odl-alto-standard-northbound-route

odl-alto-standard-resource-translator

odl-alto-ird

odl-alto-manual-maps

odl-alto-hosttracker

odl-alto-nonstandard-types

odl-alto-nonstandard-service-model

odl-alto-nonstandard-northbound-route

odl-messaging4transport-api

odl-messaging4transport



There  are 18 ALTO modules .





This will not be uncommon for modules within OpenDaylight's Karaf

distribution Losif.  Many projects create various karaf bundles for their

own purposes in a finer granularity than is significant to the end user.

We have "user facing karaf features" that aggregate multiple smaller

bundles into a collection that is exposed and documented to the end user.

I have a feeling, in the beginning, the ALTO team thought that the four

user facing features made sense, but at some point along the way changed to

just using "alto-all" to fully install the full ALTO functionality.

Richard, feel free to correct me or add additional insights.







The documentation describes only the  ALTO -manager but this

modules does not exist anymore in the distribution.

All these new modules  are totally undocumented.



After installing these new modules I tried to only

example on the documentation page using the apidoc

explorer and it does not seem to work.

I also tried using curl on cli.





I would have expected that if you loaded all the ALTO features, that was

equivalent to installing "alto-all".  Richard, can you or someone from the

ALTO project help Losif and his team get ALTO up and running in their

environment?







Changing the name of the modules and adding many

new undocumented modules for the same

distribution ( Lithium) makes it really difficult to use it .







In my option, it will be very  useful  for the users to have a set

of simple / realistic examples in how to use these modules.





Basic/simple examples would clearly help.  Thanks for the suggstion

Losif.  Denise, lets see if we can get these as we do per-project

interviews in the coming weeks.



Best,



Phil.









Thanks a lot for all your help.





Best Regards,

Iosif













On 10/29/2015 02:22 AM, Phil Robb wrote:



Hello Everyone:



My apologies for missing this thread entirely until now.  It's totally my

bad.



I'd like to start with a level set so that I know where everyone is in

getting up to speed.



First off, yes trying to search for documentation via google is

particularly painful for OpenDaylight.  The Hydrogen release of the

documentation was implemented on the wiki but for most of Helium and all of

Lithium the user facing documentation has been compiled into PDF documents

on the OpenDaylight.org site.  So the best curated documentation we have is

in our pdf based documents on the OpenDaylight.org site and that isn't

crawled by google (but the very stale wiki pages are).  Are you all

familiar with the documents produced and available for download here?:

<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.opendaylight.org_downloads&d=AwMFaQ&c=-dg2m7zWuuDZ0MUcV7Sdqw&r=4G36iiEVb2m_v-0RnP2gx9KZJjYQgfvrOCE3789JGIA&m=Y6nHk9YlEv5uixIXZPApl3BfPJfBdVYsyv62OL9wX94&s=VluKfkorna-mI2YWrfEUaD4WGA-67OGN538wrtAfngg&e=>

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Second, did anyone get the chance to attend the ODL Summit and take the

day-long tutorial given by Ed Warnicke on "A Grand Tour Of Coding For

OpenDaylight"?  For anyone that did not, it will be helpful to go through

that material.  We have a wiki page that includes the 16 labs done in the

tutorial along with the slides presented, the USB image that was

distributed and used throughout the tutorial and youtube video recordings

that comprise the day-long event.  At the Summit they only got through 13

of the 16 tutorials so that is all you'll see on the recording.  I'm

working with Ed to have him record the last 3 labs for completeness but

that is not done yet.  If you watch this and have questions, please reach

out to Ed on irc (he's a bit hit-or-miss via email).  Ed's irc handle is

"edwarnicke"



Next, the best resource for each project is their individual project page

on the wiki.  Each project is required to have one and keep it up to date.

Also on it is a project "Fact Box" that contains the contact information

for the project lead and all committers as well as their mailing list, irc

channel, meeting information etc.  In addition each page often contains

pointers to their most recent wiki page documentation and any other

relevant resources.  The full list is here:

<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__wiki.opendaylight.org_view_Project-5Flist&d=AwMFaQ&c=-dg2m7zWuuDZ0MUcV7Sdqw&r=4G36iiEVb2m_v-0RnP2gx9KZJjYQgfvrOCE3789JGIA&m=Y6nHk9YlEv5uixIXZPApl3BfPJfBdVYsyv62OL9wX94&s=bV0b573NMoHWZP98T5TbkrERvXliakhtdZ7sfZlL6pY&e=>

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and the specific projects in question are here:



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<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__wiki.opendaylight.org_view_YANG-5FTools-3AMain&d=AwMFaQ&c=-dg2m7zWuuDZ0MUcV7Sdqw&r=4G36iiEVb2m_v-0RnP2gx9KZJjYQgfvrOCE3789JGIA&m=Y6nHk9YlEv5uixIXZPApl3BfPJfBdVYsyv62OL9wX94&s=olwwPiA48ODWNULKvgBAlJF2kSKiF85GZyL6Y4E-g6s&e=>

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Also note, that if you are ever concerned that something might be out of

date, just click on the "view history" tab at the top of the wiki page.

That will show you when the most recent changes were made giving you some

level of confidence on the "freshness" of the material.



If you've not yet looked through the above material please do so and let

me know if it helps.  The next step will be to reach out to the Project

leads for each of the above either on the mailing lists or irc channels

with your specific questions.  What the community lacks in documentation

(and we know we lack in documentation) we make up for in timely responses

to your questions... unless your request gets lost in my inbox... but I've

already covered that above in this email... and again, sorry about that.



Best,



Phil.





On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 9:42 PM, Iosif Legrand <Iosif.Legrand@...>

wrote:



Hello Melissa,





Thank you very much for your email.



I would  like to learn more about using Yang tools

in the ODL framework to setup and control  flows .

I saw many presentations describing the power and

flexibility for this approach , but is  hard to find

documentation and  simple/realistic examples in using it .



I am also interested to learn using ALTO, LACP, Opflex, Intend .



A significant part of the on-line documentation

(using web search engines) or examples  is for Hydrogen or Helium

releases and   is not updated for the Lithium version.

In the doc wiki pages there are many broken links or links to

old version for the documentation.



I think that good documentation is very important for such a complex

project.  I also believe that having  simple  examples in using

ODL framework for realistic problems / configuration will help a

lot the user community .





Best Regards,

ioji









On 9/23/2015 7:06 PM, Melissa Logan wrote:



Hi Losif,



Thank you for that feedback. The good news is that we'll soon have a

resource who will be updating key documentation, but it may take some time

before you see the results. Which projects specifically do you need help

with? We may be able to find community members who can help.



Melissa



On Wed, Sep 23, 2015 at 9:15 AM, Iosif Legrand <Iosif.Legrand@...>

wrote:



Hello ,



I am trying to learn it and use it in our environment.

There are several new interesting projects / modules in Lithium

but is no  appropriate documentation and examples in how to use them.

This is most frustrating part .



Regards,

Iosif







On 09/23/2015 04:57 PM, Harvey Newman wrote:



Iosif is studying Lithium and can comment.

Harvey





On 9/23/2015 7:10 AM, Melissa Logan wrote:



OK great! We will be in touch with the materials for input.



With regard to Lithium, how is that progressing for you?

On Sep 23, 2015 6:50 AM, "Harvey Newman" <newman@...> wrote:



   Dear Melissa,



I am open to this and would be glad to follow this up with you.



Regards

Harvey







On 9/22/2015 8:50 PM, Melissa Logan wrote:



Hi Harvey, Julian and Dorian!



I hope you're all doing well. Have you found any dark matter yet, or

hints of supersymmetry?



With regard to SC15, we wondered if you would you have the ability to

debut or show the video we created with you folks? We thought that might be

a perfect venue to debut it (i.e. if you have a TV in your booth, or

perhaps during a paper presentation if that makes sense?) while we would

publish it on our blog, social media, newsletter etc. What do you think?



We could even perhaps schedule interviews with a couple HPC reporters

(e.g. HPCwire, ZDNet) who might be interested in hearing about your

experiences, as well as ODL's perspective. Would you be open to that? If so

we can get the video finalized by early October and start reaching out to

reporters around mid to late October to pitch.



Melissa





On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 9:55 AM, Jill Lovato <

<jlovato@...>jlovato@...> wrote:



Hi Harvey,



That's great news!  Please keep us updated on your submission and paper,

and feel free to pass along both the abstract you submitted as well as the

paper for reference.



We'd like to release the CERN video in tandem with SC15. Your presence

and presentation at the event and discussion of OpenDaylight use would be a

good compliment to our promotional efforts surrounding the video. We may

also want to set up some press briefings at that time. Let us know if you

have any concerns with that approach, otherwise we'll move forward.



As for assistance with the release and the packages, we'd love to help.

Let us know what you need and we can put you in touch with our technical

director, Phil Robb, and perhaps some other members of the OpenDaylight

community, to get that moving.



Thanks,

Jill



On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 11:54 PM, Harvey Newman <newman@...>

wrote:



Hi Jill and Melissa,



Indeed we are preparing for SC15 and part of our plan is to talk

about our experiences with OpenDaylight. Julian and Dorian

just submitted an abstract to the INDIS workshop on our

SC14 experiences and more recent progress, and a paper is

(very shortly) due.



We will also mention some of the same progress in the ESnet

R&D workshop planned at about the same time.



Best regards

Harvey



PS Your contact with us also is opportune in that we would like

to present a strong case for ODL Lithium. For that to happen

we would need some assistance with the release as it continues

to evolve, and for some of the packages to settle down by October

or earlier. We understand that other users have had similar recent

experience.





On 8/12/2015 3:05 AM, Jill Lovato wrote:



Hi Julian and Harvey,



Hope you are doing well! I work with Melissa Logan on PR for

OpenDaylight, and am reaching out regarding the Supercomputing 2015

conference in Austin November 15-20: <

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We don't currently have plans to participate in the event, but are

thinking it might be really compelling to the community to talk about how

Caltech is using OpenDaylight. We're going to get more details on the event

and various presentation options, but wanted to reach out now to see if

this is something you'd be interested in; we'd love to work with you on

something!



Looking forward to your thoughts on this, and we'll be in touch again

when we have more details.



Thank you,

Jill





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    Hi Richard,

    

    Please see attached diagrams for the SC15. These include routes
    withing SC and connecting remote sites. I will put them on our
    supercomputing website soon.

    

    If you notice we have a mix of hardware from various vendors,
    however only Dell and Brocade will be part of the OF topology.
    Mellanox spectrum does not support OF yet.

    

    In the Interconnect diagram you will see the various hosts which
    will be dedicated to different demos, so that people running those
    demos will have free hand to continue their demos. I can dedicate
    few more machines where ALTO can be demonstrated, we need to ensure
    that everything will work involving ALTO.

    

    If you/team need early access to test/install any particular
    software in the testbed environment, please send me your keys and
    your source IP addresses.

    

    I am also available at "626.318.0100 " for any quick call.

    

    Thanks

    -Azher

    

    
On 11/2/2015 11:46 AM, Y. Richard Yang
      wrote:

    

    

        
          
          

          

            

      
Hi Losif,
        


        

        
Let's get some more details on your SC15 work so that we
          can work together w/ you to solve related issues. Beyond the
          4-node topology, do you have more rough write up on your SC15
          work so that we can engage to provide examples (or direct
          clients) for you to use? Jensen, Austin, and Kai can fully
          engage in the next two weeks to work together. I am tied up
          today but can chat on the phone tomorrow.

        


        

        
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On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 9:02 AM, Iosif
          Legrand <Iosif.Legrand@...>
          wrote:

          
Hello
            Richard,

            

            

            Thank really very much for your email.

            

            I think we can use the ODL version that you suggest is
            better for using ALTO.

            

            We would like to use ALTO based on  the North Bound REST
            API.

            As the time we have until SC15 is quite short, it wll be
            very useful for

            us if you have some examples in how o use it.

            

            I would like to start with a quite simple topology ( the
            attached diagram )

            where we have four sites in a ring and than I hope we can
            extend it for more complex cases.

            

            Thank you very much.

            

            Best Regards,

            Iosif

              

              

              

              

              

              

              On 11/1/2015 8:04 PM, Y. Richard Yang wrote:

            
            

                Azher, all,

                

                First sorry for the delay in response---I was on the
                road until early

                today.

                

                Let me start by saying that it is wonderful that you are
                looking into ALTO

                in the context of your wonderful project. The feedback
                from you is great

                for the ALTO project to improve. At the same time, we
                apology for the

                inaccuracies and hence the issues caused.

                

                Here is my proposal to move forward:

                1. We will first go over the issues discovered by you in
                your email, one by

                one, to verify and proposal fixes; please give us two
                days;

                2. After 1., we want to schedule a meet up with you to
                go over the issues

                with you and work together; I believe that no one is
                more motivated than us

                to fix the issues;

                3. After 2., we will send a summary to Phil and others
                on what both ALTO

                and other ODL project can learn to improve.

                

                How does the preceding sound?

                Richard

                

                On Sunday, November 1, 2015, Jensen Zhang <jingxuan.n.zhang@...>

                wrote:

                

              
              

                  I agree with Junzhuo (Austin). And Azher, if you want
                  to use stable ODL

                  and ALTO, please try 0.3.2-Lithium-SR2. Because it is
                  the latest stable

                  release version. Please check this link:

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                    .

                    

                    Best,

                    Jensen

                    

                    2015-11-01 14:02 GMT+08:00 Junzhuo Austin Wang <wangjunzhuo200@...>:

                    

                    Hi Azher,

                    

                    May I ask which version are you using?
                    Lithium-0.3.2-SNAPSHOT is not a

                    stable version. And Lithium-0.4.0 is not a valid
                    version number. So I

                    assume you're using Beryllium 0.4.0, which is not a
                    stable version either.

                    I suggest you downgrade to a stable version of ODL,
                    say 0.3.2-Lithium-SR2,

                    to solve these problems.

                    

                    Regards,

                    Junzhuo

                    

                    2015-10-31 22:38 GMT+08:00 Azher Mughal <azher@...>:

                    

                    We recently moved from Lithium 0.3.2 snapshot to
                    Lithium 0.4.0 snapshot. I

                    added features in order at line 60, while rest by
                    Iosif.

                    

                    

                      history

                    

                        60  feature:install odl-restconf
                    odl-l2switch-switch

                    odl-openflowplugin-all odl-mdsal-apidocs
                    odl-dlux-all odl-adsal-northbound

                        61  features:install -l

                        62  help

                        63                         feature:install -l

                        64  feature:install -l

                        65  feature:install odl-alto-provider

                        66  feature:install odl-alto-manager

                        67  feature:list

                        68  feature:install odl-alto-core

                        69  feature:install odl-alto-manager

                        70  feature:install odl-alto-provider

                        71  feature:install odl-alto-manager

                        72  feature:install odl-alto-northbound

                        73  feature:install odl-alto-hosttracker

                        74  history

                    

                    -Azher

                    

                    On 10/31/2015 1:25 AM, Iosif Legrand wrote:

                    

                    Hello Jensen,

                    

                    

                    Thank you very much for your email.

                    

                    Azher from our group ( in cc ) installed the ODL ,
                    and as far as know

                    from him, he installed the pre-built Lithium - SR2.

                    Azher , please send Jensen the command line history
                    from our

                    installation.

                    

                    With Best Regards,

                    Iosif

                    

                    

                    

                    

                    On 10/31/2015 08:04 AM, Jensen Zhang wrote:

                    

                    Hi Losif,

                    

                    Thanks for your feedback.

                    

                    "ALTO:Lithium User Guide" (

                  

                

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                  assumes that you are using OpenDaylight Lithium
                  Release. But It seems

                  that you are not using the Lithium Release. These
                  modules you list in karaf

                  are in our master branch, so the Lithium User Guide is
                  not fit for them.

                  

                  However, I am not sure how you install your
                  OpenDaylight. May I get your

                  command-line history or some logs so that we can help
                  you better?

                  

                  BTW. I think you can get the pre-built version of ODL
                  Lithium-SR2 from

                
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                    ).

                    

                    Regards,

                    Jensen

                    

                    2015-10-31 7:29 GMT+08:00 Harvey Newman <newman@...>:

                    

                    Much appreciated Phil and All.

                    

                    As you can see we have some very specific questions,

                    and an issue of documentation as well.

                    

                    Thanks for following this through with Iosif

                    

                      (and the other team members cited).

                    

                    Best regards

                    Harvey

                    

                    

                    

                    On 10/30/2015 4:22 PM, Phil Robb wrote:

                    

                    Hello Kai & Jensen:

                    

                    I sent this to Richard yesterday not realizing that
                    the leadership of the

                    project has changed this past week.

                    

                    The folks at CalTech woking on the Large Hadron
                    Collider are using

                    OpenDaylight to distribute the data they collect to
                    a network of

                    participating universities and they're interested in
                    using ALTO as part of

                    that effort.

                    

                    However, they are having some issues in getting
                    everything stood up.

                    Could you guys take a look at the email below and
                    respond to Losif Legrand

                    and team with any insights you may have?

                    

                    Thanks in advance for your help with this.

                    

                    Phil.

                    

                    On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 9:45 AM, Phil Robb <probb@...>

                    wrote:

                    

                    Hi Losif:

                    

                    Thanks for your detailed email regarding ALTO.  It
                    sounds like you've got

                    more of these regarding other ODL projects but let's
                    take them one at a

                    time.

                    

                    I've cc-ed the lead of the docs team (Colin Dixon),
                    a Tech-Writer we have

                    on contract to help us with our documentation
                    (Denise [Walters] Boehm) and

                    the Project Lead for the ALTO project (Richard
                    Yang).  Richard should be

                    able to help us with getting you sorted out
                    regarding the ALTO

                    implementation in OpenDaylight-Lithium and Denise
                    and Colin can take what

                    we learn here to improve the documentation in the
                    future.

                    

                    Further comments inline below...

                    

                    On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 3:38 AM, Iosif Legrand <Iosif.Legrand@...>

                    wrote:

                    

                    Hello Phil,

                    

                    

                    Thank you very much for your email and the links to
                    the documentation.

                    

                    Unfortunately there are significant  discrepancy
                    between  documentation

                    and

                    and the distribution (Lithium)  we are trying to use
                    .

                    

                    

                    Actually, the problem you are running into is not
                    due to stale

                    documentation from a previous release.  Lithium is
                    the first release that

                    contained ALTO.... not that it makes the situation
                    any better.

                    

                    

                    

                    I would like to show you the example for ALTO:

                    

                     From "ALTO:Lithium User Guide" (

                  

                

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                    )

                    these are the instructions to install ALTO :

                    

                    To enable ALTO, the features must be installed
                    first.

                    

                      feature:install odl-alto-provider

                      feature:install odl-alto-manager

                      feature:install odl-alto-northbound

                      feature:install odl-alto-hosttracker

                    

                    

                     From what I can see Losif you are correct.  The
                    page you reference, and

                    the documentation in the Lithium User Guide (page
                    23) is incorrect.  I

                    believe the correct documentation for the
                    installation of ALTO is in the

                    Lithium Getting Started Guide (page 5) with the
                    command "feature:install

                    odl-alto-all".  Richard Yang, please confirm this.

                    

                    Denise, as you can see, our problem will often be
                    not that the correct

                    documentation isn't available, but that it is that
                    it is lost in a sea of

                    incorrect information.

                    

                    

                     From these 4 modules the first two do not work :

                    

                    opendaylight-user@root>feature:install
                    odl-alto-provider

                    Error executing command: No feature matching
                    odl-alto-provider/0.0.0

                    opendaylight-user@root>feature:install
                    odl-alto-manager

                    Error executing command: No feature matching
                    odl-alto-manager/0.0.0

                    opendaylight-user@root>feature:install
                    odl-alto-northbound

                    opendaylight-user@root>feature:install
                    odl-alto-hosttracker

                    

                    If I list all the modules in karaf , these are the
                    available modules for

                    alto :

                    

                    odl-alto-release

                    odl-alto-core

                    odl-alto-basic

                    odl-alto-extension

                    odl-alto-standard-types

                    odl-alto-resourcepool

                    odl-alto-northbound

                    odl-alto-standard-service-model

                    odl-alto-standard-northbound-route

                    odl-alto-standard-resource-translator

                    odl-alto-ird

                    odl-alto-manual-maps

                    odl-alto-hosttracker

                    odl-alto-nonstandard-types

                    odl-alto-nonstandard-service-model

                    odl-alto-nonstandard-northbound-route

                    odl-messaging4transport-api

                    odl-messaging4transport

                    

                    There  are 18 ALTO modules .

                    

                    

                    This will not be uncommon for modules within
                    OpenDaylight's Karaf

                    distribution Losif.  Many projects create various
                    karaf bundles for their

                    own purposes in a finer granularity than is
                    significant to the end user.

                    We have "user facing karaf features" that aggregate
                    multiple smaller

                    bundles into a collection that is exposed and
                    documented to the end user.

                    I have a feeling, in the beginning, the ALTO team
                    thought that the four

                    user facing features made sense, but at some point
                    along the way changed to

                    just using "alto-all" to fully install the full ALTO
                    functionality.

                    Richard, feel free to correct me or add additional
                    insights.

                    

                    

                    

                    The documentation describes only the  ALTO -manager
                    but this

                    modules does not exist anymore in the distribution.

                    All these new modules  are totally undocumented.

                    

                    After installing these new modules I tried to only

                    example on the documentation page using the apidoc

                    explorer and it does not seem to work.

                    I also tried using curl on cli.

                    

                    

                    I would have expected that if you loaded all the
                    ALTO features, that was

                    equivalent to installing "alto-all".  Richard, can
                    you or someone from the

                    ALTO project help Losif and his team get ALTO up and
                    running in their

                    environment?

                    

                    

                    

                    Changing the name of the modules and